Look at me, I've got the moderator hairband on tonight. We're going to have a little chat tonight, all of us, and it's something I've put off doing for a few days. Tonight, it's a go. We've tried very hard around here to stay out of the whole "WoP" blog mess, despite what certain people like to claim. Have we poked around some at Maria? Sure. We're human, after all, and she poked first. All we really want to do, though, is sit around on our fat asses and talk about food, babies, pets, alcohol, religion, politics and anything else that strikes us. If people who lurk here are honest with themselves and have more intelligence than a parsnip, you'll have admit that. We've tried like hell to be upfront and honest, as evidenced by the fact so many visit us and happily carry our conversations and sitemeter info back to their hidey-holes in order to discuss it privately. But here's the deal...it's being talked that Maria thinks someone from here is running GMWoP and if that's so, I can't blame her for being pissed at us, can you? I thought not.
I know who runs GMWoP and a few days ago I contacted one of them, asking that they take it down and, in return, we'd not poke anymore either. She said they would. They did not; it was a lie. In fact, last night they had a nice, big conversation about it all and decided that it was fine to throw some of the Daisies under the bus in order to get to Maria, even though Maria had already posted she was taking FWoP down. I say it's not fine. I say it's all fair game now.
This was said on SIP last night, among many, many other things. Oh, such *interesting things, last night...other nights...but this is where we start.
"won said... And you know what? Since it purge night, I might as well say what I have alluded to several times recently.
CPT was not alone. I was the other part of GMWOP. In fact, I think I wrote more of the posts there than she did. And AP evidently knew that, from her letter to CPT, but didn't come to me and ask me anything.
Furthermore, GMWOP started after I gave AP the chance to speak with me about my revelations that I wanted to share in order to help her protect her group...and she rudely responded to me by saying she didn't want to talk to me. Maybe she herself should have eaten some of that humble pie tonight."
So, Wendy, CPTWife, take GMWoP down. Now. Or we'll share some more gems from SIP...your choice. And by the way, it's amazing as hell which oddfellows can become friends behind the scenes when things are just *wrong.
I know who runs GMWoP and a few days ago I contacted one of them, asking that they take it down and, in return, we'd not poke anymore either. She said they would. They did not; it was a lie. In fact, last night they had a nice, big conversation about it all and decided that it was fine to throw some of the Daisies under the bus in order to get to Maria, even though Maria had already posted she was taking FWoP down. I say it's not fine. I say it's all fair game now.
This was said on SIP last night, among many, many other things. Oh, such *interesting things, last night...other nights...but this is where we start.
"won said... And you know what? Since it purge night, I might as well say what I have alluded to several times recently.
CPT was not alone. I was the other part of GMWOP. In fact, I think I wrote more of the posts there than she did. And AP evidently knew that, from her letter to CPT, but didn't come to me and ask me anything.
Furthermore, GMWOP started after I gave AP the chance to speak with me about my revelations that I wanted to share in order to help her protect her group...and she rudely responded to me by saying she didn't want to talk to me. Maybe she herself should have eaten some of that humble pie tonight."
So, Wendy, CPTWife, take GMWoP down. Now. Or we'll share some more gems from SIP...your choice. And by the way, it's amazing as hell which oddfellows can become friends behind the scenes when things are just *wrong.
*clicks my ruby slippers*
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Ya'll sure about that?
Well, that's quite a bit of blood in the sink, wouldn't you say?
"Remember Bella"?
For sure I do!
Who is the mole? who, who, WHO?
Remember Belllaaaa!!!!
REMEMBER BELLA
*watching the blood in the sink!!!
Here's a pic of the wreath BD won on the Crafts4Chris auction:
http://s776.photobucket.com/albums/yy43/ItsRobin/?action=view¤t=BD_Wreath2.jpg
And with that, I bid adieu.
It's really pretty, Robin.
i have no idea anymore what the blather is going on.
i'm tired of all of this.
i'm going to bed. maybe this will sort itself out sometime.
elisabeth, glad chris is ok. that would have been scary. do report back on the spitupon ice cream. (:
R2 that wreath is beautiful!!!
Night Rhys! It will sort itself out.
Queen Latifah looks awesome on Letterman.
"I don't trust her as far as I could throw her, and I'm pretty certain my skinny ass couldn't even pick her up."
K-K-Klassy.
Throw my ass under the bus as collateral damage will ya. I have no problem what so ever owning what I have said and what I have done....I think that over the time anyone involved in any way with any of this knows that about me.
Have I poked GM....hell yes I have. Have I stood up for Wendy when people did shady shit? Hell yes I have even when they would question me and ask why?
Unlike some who poke the bear I own it. I post as myself. I own my words. I dont hide in secrecy and watch as others get burned. So "hide" in your private little place and watch as innocent people that at one time called you a friend get put into the middle of your little war.
I, however, could never pull off sequined leggings. Not a chance.
Blood in the sink? Dang! I just cleaned the bathrooms :-/
:::donning surgical gloves and mask:::
i'm really liking that wreath too. impressive! i could never make something like that.
TWG it will sort itself out...You have a good night and kiss the babies. Here's to hoping tomorrow is a beautiful day and the three of you can go outside and have some fun free of the webz.
You nursey types are so fastidious, Kaytie.
http://s776.photobucket.com/albums/yy43/ItsRobin/?action=view¤t=BD_Wreath2.jpg
That is adorable, Robin!
It's all blather. But, important blather, nonetheless.
Well, I'll jump right on in here!
My name hasn't been brought up in any of this and I've liked it that way, so I haven't commented. But AP, can you answer something for me? Serious question, no sarcasm at all... I'm just out of the loop and confused.
Why would you ask for GMWoP to be taken down? I mean, I get that you were trying to keep the peace or whatever... but FWoP was started first, correct? So GM started the whole thing. GMWoP just put her out in the open, right? So did you only ask for it to be taken down after she put up the BS about the law being involved and her no longer posting? If that's the case, it makes more sense. Feel free to tell me to buzz off since I'm not involved. I'm just apparently nosy as hell and curious. Thanks!
And...
Hi everyone!
R2, by the way, I'm not as big as you seem to think I am. If you want to throw me, I think you could probably manage. *nods*
Let me add, too, that nothing else from SIP after last night's comments will ever be posted here again. Not tonight's, not next week's, nothing. So speak freely from here on out. We may well know about it but no one will post any of it. I give my word. We all do, don't we?
Is your reasoning for wanting it taken down to keep the peace, AP? I would still like to know why FWOP targeted Taiya like they did. I feel protective of her because she is a young mother with an awesome disposition and good head on her shoulders, why be hateful toward her?
I have personally never had a problem with GM, but I have been beyond disappointed with the judgement shown in reference to the posts about Taiya.
As for GMWOP, I can understand wanting to give someone a taste of their own medicine, but the point has been made. If a truce was agreed upon, be women of your word. Take it down and move on. I have always admired Won's integrity and I don't want to believe that the woman behind those heart wrenching tributes to a beautiful little girl, is as cold hearted and deceitful as it appears to be. I will not believe that she can pour her heart out in a beautiful and honorable fashion and then turn around and be deceitful.
Can everyone just be honest here? There are been an awful lot of hurt between some of these groups, but who is really being hurt? When the smoke clears there will be nothing left. Nothing. Give it a rest ladies. Reevaluate. And move along. You are all too smart, thoughtful and amazing to be participating in these take down games.
This got a little more ranty then I intended, but I am tired of wondering who is going to be targeted next. I just want to be able to talk about mucus plugs and yogurt tampons in peace.
The Video on Blood Borne Pathogens will begin in 10 minutes.
I have no problem w2ith anything I said. In fact, I was very vocal about not being happy about what's been going on and how things have been handled. But of course, you all obviously must know that. So why take things I've said out of context? What's your point?
Why is it that so much of what I said last night is now being quoted over and over here? How did I have anything to do with any of this? I've been vocally against it.
I don't get it. But y'all have fun with it, mmmK-Thanks.
And AP--I said what I said as an illustration. Surely your clever enough to figure that out. Or maybe not.
"Queen Latifah looks awesome on Letterman."
Queen Latifah would look awesome anywhere. *sighs longingly* Of course, we're all ugly and racist here, aren't we Cheryl? So I'm probably lying about that.
People who have nothing to do with GMWoP and FWoP have been thrown in to the wolves. No idea why Taiya got attacked as she has never done anything to deserve that. However seeing as how those involved knew full and well that others were being blamed for GMWoP with an air of it is their own faults...yes a line must be drawn. If these people want to fight let them fight...leave the other people out of it, quit letting them take the fall to keep eyes off of yourself.
Mulie, I didn't want to think that Wendy could be behind the nastiness on GMWOP either, so I get that. But she was, and innocent daisies were getting targeted in the crossfire between GM and her. Yeah, a couple of people have talked shit about GM here, and I wish they hadn't. But posting picture of GM's kids is not cool. Just because GM "started it" doesn't make it right.
Yep, we're pretty dense over here. So dense, we want to be left alone to our stupidity. No Daisy is part of GMWOP. Let that be known.
Days ago it was going to far. Days ago the request to stop was put out there. The cease fire post went up and quickly came down. Then the new post comes up as FWOP says she is done....yet someone else was not done.
Robin, I can address your question. And I will say that I was pleasantly surprised to see how you argued with Won against her most recent banning. Well not that surprised, because I know that you have done so in the past. I was personally bothered by your tone in discussing AP and Bella.
Some of you want to vilify AP, and I just don't get it. She's never been anything but upfront and honest. She had information for days that she did not use in any way, because she didn't want to cause trouble for Wendy, who hates her sooo much, and CPTWife. She politely asked that GMWOP be taken down to stop the bloodshed, and was refused. So now she openly and honestly posts information here that hopefully will, after a rough period, to be sure, stop this silliness.
I don't see what's hateable in AP. I know I'm biased, but I don't get it.
And Bella? She's just cool as shit. 'Nuff said.
"No idea why Taiya got attacked as she has never done anything to deserve that."
And this is why I have no respect for FWoP. They really could have done some interesting things. I like what GM has done with her other blogs and it would have been entertaining to see a place would could go to get the scoop on different popular blogs. Kind of like "Insider Edition" bloggy-style. Instead it turned into what it was supposed to be *against, and became a a stomp on the daisies site. Tayia handled herself beautifully in the situation, but I was baffled by the motive. It was just plain....mean?
I do not blame Won and whoever else for going after FWoP, but please, be women of your word.
I will say flat out I do not find myself blameless with what I have said and such but honestly I am not going to go down or watch others go down in a blaze because of someone else.
"Why would you ask for GMWoP to be taken down? I mean, I get that you were trying to keep the peace or whatever... but FWoP was started first, correct? So GM started the whole thing. GMWoP just put her out in the open, right? So did you only ask for it to be taken down after she put up the BS about the law being involved and her no longer posting? If that's the case, it makes more sense. Feel free to tell me to buzz off since I'm not involved. I'm just apparently nosy as hell and curious. Thanks!"
Hi, Jeanette. No, I asked for it to be taken down while FWOP was still up. I felt like if everyone just stopped messing with Maria, maybe she'd understand that we didn't want to do this that it would be a fair trade since she'd seen enough to know there was crap on her, too. Even Steven, let's all pack up our ugly bags and go home and we'll (meaning Daisy and SIP) will be the ones to start it in good faith. I had a bad feeling Maria thought some Daisies were behind GMWOP anyway and I couldn't blame her. So, I approached CPTWife privately and asked her to take it down, promising we'd behave here, as well. Two wrongs don't make a right...just because FWOP started first didn't mean it was okay for GMWOP to stay up, especially since Daisy was taking the increased brunt of her anger. It was discussed on SIP *after CPTWIfe agreed to take it down but Wendy vetoed the plan and rather gleefully said it would continue, even though she acknowledged some members of Daisy were being hurt. I read that and had had enough. So, we have this post and now everything is out there, all honest and on the table.
I have said some unsavory things about GM. I will own that. What I do not like is that other people, people that know people by casual association to old OHIH'ers, are getting scared, are getting their personal info put out there, and they didn't do anything. It's not right. And we are a public blog, so anyone can read. We all get that.
Innocent people are getting hurt by this. And, after AP held info for *days, asking for stuff to be taken down, and getting a big, fat no in response, this is what it has come to.
It will be ugly for a bit, and we may lose some readers. But, it needs to be known that no one here was baiting GM at GMWOP.
Being a mole in the corner, let me scurry out here and squeek that I think it would be very helpful to the cause if GM took FWOP down too.
Hello? AP is my idol-in-Jesus for a reason. She has the ability to speak her mind, be sensible and control her emotions and still be able to weigh in. Now what she says is not always popular, but it is well thought out.
I still can't blame GMWoP for going as far as they did, for Christ's sake, FWOP had no qualms about, at the very least, trying to embarrass and definitely harnessing Taiya. Would I have done what GMWoP did? Probably not. Since FWoP was doing nothing but taunting those who tried to civilly shut them down, I think GMWoP was able to put them on the ropes and get a TKO. The problem is, it is poor sportsmanship to continue the fight when the other side has already bowed out.
Good point, BM. (Heh heh)
There's an odd band on Letterman. All of the members are wearing capes. Interesting.
A long day of tunneling has worn me out. To bed it is for this little rodent.
Some of the capes are sparkly, with sequins. One is made of black netting, kind of like a black bridal veil. Another one looks like a rain poncho.
MGMT is the name of the band.
Well, goodnight all. Hopefully we all wake up to some clearer skies tomorrow.
I would like to say again, NO Daisy was involved in GMWOP. It's repetitive, but it's important.
Oh ok AP, thanks for explaining. I must say I'm a bit surprised by Won's involvement in all this. I never have personally clicked with her, but I always assumed she would be above something like this. Apparently not. I would expect something like this out of GM, not Won.
And, Won has addresses from when she organized the Secret Santa. That's lovely.
Goodnight Bella!
And I've baited Maria, as well. Do I regret it? I"m not exactly sure...but I've also defended her. I said long ago that Wendy started *all this shit by posting Maria's personal info right down to a home address on Fellowship while many of us were on SIP. That was the initial toe in the sand, or whatever the expression is. Of *course she's going to lump us all together after that and I don't blame her. But if you think she's so damn ugly in what she does, why in the world would you turn around and do the same?
Mulie, believe what you want or don't want about Wendy but I've got c&ps coming out my *ass from SIP to prove otherwise. You ask if everyone can't just be honest here and that's what we're doing. Finally. After taking shit for ages and just sucking it up in hopes it went away.
AP, I think you mean Blogfrog. Won posted her info on the Blogfrog post about the dual giveaway. She posted a link to the BBB and that contained her address. To my recollection, nothing like that was ever posted on Fellowship. If it was, Shana and I must have been sleeping at the wheel because we never would have allowed that.
I love MGMT, was listening to them today, in fact. One of my favorites! :-)
Mulie you said: I think GMWoP was able to put them on the ropes and get a TKO. The problem is, it is poor sportsmanship to continue the fight when the other side has already bowed out.
GMWoP didn't cause the closing...really. And yes, I could not agree more with the rest of what you said.
"No, I asked for it to be taken down while FWOP was still up. I felt like if everyone just stopped messing with Maria, maybe she'd understand that we didn't want to do this that it would be a fair trade since she'd seen enough to know there was crap on her, too. Even Steven, let's all pack up our ugly bags and go home and we'll (meaning Daisy and SIP) will be the ones to start it in good faith. I had a bad feeling Maria thought some Daisies were behind GMWOP anyway and I couldn't blame her. So, I approached CPTWife privately and asked her to take it down, promising we'd behave here, as well. Two wrongs don't make a right...just because FWOP started first didn't mean it was okay for GMWOP to stay up, especially since Daisy was taking the increased brunt of her anger. It was discussed on SIP *after CPTWIfe agreed to take it down but Wendy vetoed the plan and rather gleefully said it would continue, even though she acknowledged some members of Daisy were being hurt. I read that and had had enough. So, we have this post and now everything is out there, all honest and on the table."
Some of my reasoning is a little off after reading this explanation, but my sentiment holds true.
So what's up with the capes then, AP? Is that just their thing?
"And, Won has addresses from when she organized the Secret Santa. That's lovely."
Indeed, Jeanette.
And I could be wrong, it might have been BF but I really thought it was F'ship. Anyone recall?
Mulie, your sentiment that there are some fantastic women around here is particularly true. And you are one of them. Even if you are an orchid.
Hmm. My wheels are turning. AP, I'm gonna email you.
AAck! I just clicked on that not realizing it was part of MckMama's blog! So stupid! I just ruined three months of MckSobriety! All are punished!! All are punished!!
Omg, whoops!! Sorry bout that SW!! I should have added a disclaimer!
I was lurking & OMG SW! That made me lol, ha!
Lol, thanks, SW. I'll not click and just trust Jeanette. I stand corrected, then, on where she posted it. I'm sorry, Jeanette, and delete on.
Karma's a bitch, Shana. For reals.
Back to my hidey-hole...
=0)
LOL it's okay, Jeanette. One day at a time, and all.
It's always good to see you, Shana!
Heh-heh...I guess FWOP was right about me & my warped sexual humor cause all I can see when I read "hidey-hole" is hiney hole. I'm just pitiful girl's. It's official.
Haha! Janette slipped SW a M(CK)ickey!
Ok, deleted. Not that it really matters where it was posted, but waking up tomorrow to see my address flashing across the Today Show is not on my list of things to do!
LOL Shana!
Jeanette, I got a feeling Wendy will have other targets for tomorrow. Just a hunch.
Mulie, are your cramps better?
AP, I was not intent on defending Won, it was more that I was thinking out loud. I didn't mean it to sound like I didn't believe you, I just didn't want it to be true.
New post at FWOP...they already knew it was Won and they also have the proof that Won was feeding them the information about the Daisies...
Looks like Won was trying to play both sides of the fence and trying to DUPE THE DAISIES!
Happy reading!
Yes, my cramps are better. Nothing a little percocet couldn't fix.
I hate to admit that you are right SW, but for what it's worth AP...I commend you for doing what was right. I actually had a post scheduled for today that was the whole "Two wrong's don't make a right" quote. I changed it though so I didn't look like a copy cat, ha!
Watch out, it could be a trap!!!
Mulie, I know. It's okay. :-)
SW, they don't always wear capes. Youtube 'em...excellent music.
Hi, Shana. It's always nice to see you!
Not a Daisy, stick around and tell us why you don't like the daisies. It's share night, ya know.
Under doctor orders of course. Have ever told you all I suffer from chronic back pain? It's really quite annoying and I generally don't talk about it because it's old news and I would sound like a broken record if I brought it up every time it bothered me.
I don't remember you saying that, Mulie. It must be tough being pregnant with chronic back pain. Lordy, I'm stupidly obvious tonight, no?
Omg, I am *so glad I didn't go to bed! That was such an entertaining read! Trying to clear herself until the bitter end.... it's sad really.
I was worried for a bit that the blood in the sink was one of the Bday guests. Phew! They are delivered healthy and happy to their homes. Even if a little chocolate cup cake with a sourgummy worm smeared :-D
Never said I didn't like the Daisies. Just happen to not like the way people have been attacked and the group jumps on board with MOB Mentality and agrees without knowing the people being attacked.
The FWOP blog was started because of all the accusing taking place on boards like this one.
Won has been feeding the FWOP blog daily with names and addresses and the Daisies had so much hate for others they could not see the truth even though it was staring them in the face. Won had every address, husbands names, employment info and all names first and last of the daisies.
The pleasure is all mine ::curtsy:: I l♥ve being here =0)
I kinda adopted y'all back in October & never planned on letting some of you go!
I just wrote a lengthy explanation about my back crap, but it disappeared faster than my waist line. I'll tell you the details later, but rest assured, I have far less pain when being pregnant and breastfeeding then I do normally.
That sucks Mulie.. I have back trouble too. I hope it doesn't get too rough for you.
NAD...what is the point though? I just want to know why? What was all of this supposed to accomplish or prove?
Also, I don't know what reason Won had for wanting to continue with GMWoP, but it may be justified. Just wondering here, but should we really be mad at Won if she never agreed to take it down in the first place? Just wondering.
Won accused GM of stealing from the pay pal account for Krista. Google Won, Wendy Thompson, or Oliviasgrace and you will see that Won herself back in 2006 was accused of taking money from the Oliviasgrace group she started and this is what prompted the lady to steal Won's AOL account. The Oliviasgrace group was quickly shutdown and Won disappeared from the Cancer Group only to resurface on the internet during the AprilRose saga and the OHIH group against mckmama.
I find it funny she would accuse someone of stealing when she herself had been accused of this.
NAD, thanks for coming back and sharing your opinion. Do you read here daily? Because I don't recognize the mob mentality you are talking of. Who has been attacked here, and then a mob jumped in? I'm asking in all seriousness.
There has been some JM bashing, to be sure. Not much lately, because everybody lost interest. But JM's a public figure and public figures are fair game for potshots.
I agree that a few people made negative commnts about GM, and especially after FWOP started. But if you read here every day surely you know that 99% of the time the discussions here are light and fun and inclusive. I really am interested in what specific information you have to the contrary.
Kaytie, can I have a cupcake, please? I need to stay awake. :-D
Shana, copycat on. We just got there first but it's all good.
Wow. What a lot to take in.
I'm just shaking my head in disgust. Posting pics of other people's kids, their IP addresses, real addresses, names, threatening to track down family members, work places, kids with the INTENT of harassing them? Not right and not cool. And they are saying we are vile? Yeah right. Passing out Frozen Yogurt Tampons, cheetos and coupons for Pink Depends.
Won talked about Mckmama exploiting Stellan on the Internet and I have found things on the Internet were Won was writing in to Deal Or No Deal (after her daughter had died) and trying to get on the show and leaving her daughters Careingbridgesite info under her name.
Exploiting her dead daughter to try and get on the Deal Or No Deal Show is pretty low if you ask me.
Ok, NOD, just because someone is given information, doesn't mean they have to use it, or threaten to use it.
Kaytie, can I have a cupcake, please? I need to stay awake. :-D
Shana, copycat on. We just got there first but it's all good.
:::Passing you a fresh made cupcake with a sugar coated Daisy on it:::
NAD, I get what you are saying. But Won has never been a daisy. Why a daisy hate site? What have daisies done to make you dislike us?
Kaytie you made the point well. Nobody from daisy has ever pulled crap like that, to my knowledge.
SW I am talking about people who didn't know GM but would jump in to talk nasty about her.
I am talking about Kathryn and making fun of her spelling, and people would bait her in a dialog at MWOP, only to come to Daisy site and make fun of her.
Tinycandi was the brunt of many a joke. Many of these ladies don't even know Tinycandi but they jumped right in.
That is MOB Mentality. Joining in the bashing when you have no knowledge of the person.
<<--wants a cupcake, really bad
Kaytie, is there any left for me?
Late night commercials for these "alternative" collages are really lame.
Was anyone else underwhelmed with Lost tonight? Only 2 more episodes left and I'm confused as ever!
NAD, thank you for offering specifics. Most of us here have never bashed GM, many of us don't even know who Kathryn is, and many weren't at OHIH so don't know Tiny. I think if you go back and look at threads, people who weren't involved did not join in the discussion of those people. I never have.
We all know that whenever a bunch of women get together, there will be gossip and idle chatter. I guess you interpret it as malicious. I have heard remarkably little of that at daisy. I guess we see it differently.
Thanks for coming and speaking out, really. I respect your willingness to engage directly, rather than take potshots from afar.
I have a question for NAD, if I may.
If there was all this evidence against Wendy, why wasn't it brought up on FWOP until now? Stealing from a fund started for a deceased daughter is much worse than calling someone a butt plug, no? I don't understand why lighthearted snark was made out to be so evil and yet something like that was never mentioned.
:::passing out cupcakes to everyone, and that means you, too NAD:::
NAD - All of this is alphabet soup to me. I see what you are saying, I truly do. However, you may have seen one or two days and maybe three or four poster of daisies in your equation. Your mob mentality scenario does not wash, because there are so many more subjects and so many more posters here. Now take up a lawn chair, have a cup cake and wash it down with some diet DP or Schlitz.
Tara, I think tonight's episode answered a lot of questions about what's going on at the island. I missed the regulars, but I think from a big picture perspective, the episode was necessary.
Jeanette, that's a really good question.
Has anyone heard from ELISABETH re: CHRIS? At the movie I kept sneaking to check my e-mails and did not get one. PLEASE let me know!
cannot wait to watch LOST!!
Loves MamaSox on American Idol!!
thats all I got right now!!
Hi Karen! Did you see the MamaSox/Lee duet yet? It will rock your world!!
SW: It did answer some questions, yes. I was just kinda bored, I guess.
Karen: Yay Mamasox!
With all this back and forth surprise info, I can't help but wonder if we're all being Punk'd. And not in the funny Ashton Kutcher way.
Maybe it's my itty bitty Alabama brain, but I still just don't get it. This mess was taken so far & whoever was responsible was out for blood. And for what? What was it supposed to prove? I just don't understand. It just seems so senseless. Let's take it back as far as OHIH. The majority of the people called out during this wasn't even on OHIH nor have they done anything. Was it just a way to get at who they really wanted to hurt by taking shots at people we cared about?
I just don't get it. I won't start naming names, but women were brought into it that I care about & I know they haven't done anything. My name was added to the list & boy let me tell you...I'm a big ol' bad ass y'all. Huge threat here. ::roll's eye's::
Have I mentioned that I just don't get it? =0)
:::whimpering bravely::: I missed AI and Mama Sox d/t Bday boy. No Devo. I love my son, I love my son, I love my son.
Oh my gosh!! SW, the duet was the shiz!
Kaytie, can I have a cupcake, please? I need to stay awake. :-D
Shana, copycat on. We just got there first but it's all good.
Umm, AP? Are you taking a nap on the enter key?
OmG Katie. Try. Not. To. Panic. It's probably already on Youtube. Go now and look.
Shana, you are so darn cute! "...I'm a big ol' bad ass y'all" Um, I mean scary! oooo scary!
Kaytie, I bet you can catch AI on Youtube in a couple of days. Honestly? They weren't great. Crystal was good, her duet with Lee was amazing.
Jamie Foxx was the mentor and he TOTALLY gets on my nerves.
"Was anyone else underwhelmed with Lost tonight? Only 2 more episodes left and I'm confused as ever!"
I was underwhelmed, sort of...the ending was interesting, though.
"No Devo."
We are not men...
yes SW that duet was amazing! I think mamasox is gonna win it all - that song was just amazing though - i'd pay money at the store to buy it for sure!
SW, we're sharing a brain.
I just love the look of pure joy on Crystal's face when she sings. It's transcendant.
<<--watching the duet again (sorry Kaytie)
Karen, I hope she wins!
Shana, it's your potty mouth that scares everyone. ;o)
"mm, AP? Are you taking a nap on the enter key?"
No! :-P I got an error message so I refreshed and it repeated like a bad turnip.
I love Crystal's mic stand. I want to steal it.
I'm soooo going to be hating all ya'll tomorrow, when I'm a sleep-deprived grumpy bear.
It scares me too Tara! My mind is a scary place. Funny, but scary, ha!
SW, can you here what I said in that Southern twang? "I'm a big ol' bad ass y'all," come back to see me ya hear?
"mm, AP? Are you taking a nap on the enter key?"
No! :-P I got an error message so I refreshed and it repeated like a bad turnip.
I was starting to think I was crazy! I had to scroll back up to make sure I really saw it up there somewhere!
Here it is, Kaytie. It's got an annoying ad on it, but there are others. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mgh0SDD42wg
Won shut the group down in 2006 so all records are gone. The Internet has numerous conversations in Cancer groups that have talked of what happened. Just like the ones that accused GM of theft with no proof, only the word of Krista(the woman this group has labeled as a drug user, drunk and person with a mental illness). No proof of GM stealing money was ever shown, but yet time and time again it has been discussed.
Each person featured on the FWOP had engaged in bashing of people on this blog. Go back and read the comments, it is all there.
Shana, I think you are forgetting DING DONG THE WITCH IS GONE? Maybe that is what got your name on the list. You act like you want to play nice on Fellowship but you came to the Daisy site to stir up trouble. Sounds like it got you a spot on the list.
Shana, I don't get it either. Wanna Cup Cake? I mean, targeting Taiya? Margaret? And others that (general) you were supposed to be once friends with? The INTENT is to THREATEN and HARASS.
This may be a Public site, but there are no adds, there are no clicks for monetary gains. The one (that I know of) Daisy group activity was an Auction...Care4Chris. It helped a family and person we care very much about.
Well, I thought I'd make it easy for the fact collectors and announce that Shana will have a new address in about 23 days. Where? Here! The bitch is coming to invade my house for a week and I couldn't be *more excited!
And with that, I'm out. Goodnight Daisies!
If you have iTunes Kaytie, you can buy it tomorrow. :D
SW: I'm fading, too. I should be sleeping. I'm watching it snow. Yes, snow. In May.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mgh0SDD42wg
:::Twirling::: Thank you! Ooops! Sorry AP. No worries, I had my big girl panties on tonight :-D
NAD, it sounds like you have had your feelings hurt by people in the past, and by some of the stuff you've read on Daisy. I'm sorry about that. I wish you would stick around and get to know us. And the great thing about Daisy is, you can call us out on shit when you hear something you don't like. Nobody is banned and most of us really enjoy hashing out disagreements in a respectful manner.
I don't get at all you defending the nastiness posted on FWOP though, if that is your intention.
Wow, Jeanette, that's so cool! Kaytie, well, did the duet give you goosebumps?
I'm so embarrassed that I don't have either an IPOD or a single ITune. ::hiding head::
NAD, I don't really want to be in the middle of the whole GM and Krista missing money ordeal, but... it's never been clear who took the money, but there is no doubt that there was theft during the money being collected by GM for Krista situation. Neither of them were ever honest about how much money was received. GM never showed proof of what was collected in an effort to clear her name and told several people that she got rid of all documentation, that she had washed her hands clean of it all. So naturally, people are going to come to their own conclusions if it seems a person is hiding something.
Okay, I'm out. It's entirely my fault I stayed up this late so don't let me blame you guys in the morning, K?
I don't "play nice" on Fellowship for any other reason but to keep the innocent ones safe from the crap that they don't deserve to be drug into. I was happy when FWOP went down because I had friend's that seriously hadn't done anything that were being slammed. Did I come here & sing? Umm, yeah. I also posted on Fellowship saying "Oh Happy Day! It's a great day in blogland!" I am just as "warped" over there & find it hard to hide my true personality.
You are absolutely right "NAD" there is no proof that GM stole money from Krista. Of course, there is no proof that she didn't, since she refused to show documents concerning the donations. There is proof, however, that GM was behind the postings to Lyrics, after she claimed to have "sold" the blog. So she isn't as clean as you are trying to make her out to be. Interesting that all mail would be forwarded to her when you have no proof that she didn't steal money. Things that make you go hmm.
You need an iPod SW. I didn't have one until a few months ago and now I would be lost without it!
Also, NAD, I think a lot of people fall back on the GM/Krista money disappearing thing because when someone steals from you, it becomes personal. Most of us donated money "to Krista" and after all the dust settled, we weren't sure where it had actually gone.
Us "white trash" folks don't have much money to spare, so it's a sore subject to say the least.
And just to make it clear...I'm not accusing GM of stealing any money. I don't know. No one will ever *really know for sure what happened but Krista & GM. I'm just stating what is common knowledge. I'm not taking jabs at GM nor am I trying to bash her.
I'm out, too. Am so tired...goodnight, all and this, too, shall pass. Hopefully now that the truth is out, we can go back to talking about fun stuff.
Sweet dreams, y'all.
Oh! 12 and 6 tomorrow, okay?
SW - Nite! and still loading it!
Goodnight AP and SW!
Goodnight AP =0) Sweet dreams!
Kaytie, I am sorry you were worried!! I posted on the thread right before this one......I didn't realize there was a new post.
I would copy&paste but my paster and blogger aren't on speaking terms at the mo.
I find it funny that CreepMommy was the first person who handled money, but yet she was never accused of stealing. Just because you don't like someone doesn't make it right to accuse them of theft.
It actually is the thing that made me take a good look at the Daisy group and how they don't play fair. If they did, they would have said that Creepymommy had first handled the money and she would have been lumped in as a possible suspect. Instead, because of the dislike of GM, Creepymommy was given a free pass.
I think if many will look back over what has been said in the past, they will see that it was not right.
I would also like to set the record straight that I saw GM's full name, husbands name and her business name posted on this site. This was at the beginning of this blog and it is still there. So, in all fairness this blog posted full names first, not FWOP.
What has happened over the last few months is that a select few have engaged time and time again in bullying and the newcomers in an attempt to fit in have joined in. Go back and read some of the things Sandy and Margaret have posted making fun of people they don't know. Innocent I don't think so. Taiya did her fair share of bringing up the drama. I saw a post she posted saying "So where is the mean Grammiemommy lately"? No one else was even discussing GM. Why ask this about someone you don't even know if you aren't trying to stir up crap. Like I said, go back and read what has been written on this blog and it speaks volumes.
Elisabeth, I'm glad Chris is ok!!
NAD, I can't speak for CM, but I think she has already shown proof of the money transferred to GM. She collected on that very first day, but since she didn't have a business account, she could only collect a certain amount. GM stepped in and offered to help.
Also, if I remember correctly, the "dislike" for GM didn't start until after OHIH went down and people started to put some pieces together. It's not just about the so called missing money.
I have to go to bed now. Good night!
So why not just be up front about it with those people? Why not just go straight to the source & say Look!
I guess I just don't understand the way everything has been gone about. And I apologize to GM or whoever else because I haven't been on this site a whole lot. I have no idea what or when those things were said. So for that I do apologize. I miss chatting daily with a large majority of the women here so I come over from time to time & speak or read. I just wish that whatever has been said & whomever's feelings have been hurt, it could just be laid out there & apologies made & everyone move on for goodness sake's.
With that, I'm going now. I hope everyone has a good night's sleep. If I have personally hurt anyone, pissed anyone off or maybe just rubbed anyone the wrong way...I'm sorry, for reals =0)
Elisabeth - I went back to older post and saw it! TY so much for letting us know! And what a *turd Chris is (evil grin).
SW - I downloaded, saw it, and reveled in it! TY!
Good Lord! I'm headed to bed myself but just wanted to pop in and say hey. Got sucked in and my head's still spinning. ;)
I really have no clue about everything that's going on as I'm a newcomer myself. I will say, though, that I'm glad it's all out in the open now.
I'll also own up to having talked trash about GM and calling her names several times here on Daisy. I still think the FWOP site is uncalled for and fail to see it doing anything positive, but I shouldn't have called GM names as I don't know her and have never been involved in any of the other sites.
Anyway, I'm going back to lurk mode on all of that. I'll be right here amongst the daisies and will pop back in after this clears. G'night!
BJ - I am headed to bed, too. Exhausting day of prepping for Bday boy and *gasp baking boatloads of cupcakes. Good to see you!
Good to see you, too KaytieJ! =) Happy (late) Birthday to BDay Boy!!
Was just reading back about Chris and Elisabeth- so glad it's all okay and LOL'ed about the spitting in the ice cream. Let us know how that works out for you, Elisabeth.
See y'all tomorrow.
I don't know what is going on. I have a lot of catching up to do.
Right now I'm angry and hurt. I'm stewing a little bit and will have to think about a lot on my drive to work.
NAD, I'm sorry but you are wrong. I never bashed anyone here on Daisies and I was featured early on FWoP. I came here after being attacked on twitter for my opinion on JM. I never even 'bashed' JM like so many do. I just shared my opinion.
I will own everything I have said on MWoP, here, twitter and even my comments on GMWoP. I know the reason I was featured on FWoP was because I engaged in back and forth bashing on twitter with GM who I believe went by FTWMommy and 2toplay. Because I stood by everything I said I had no problem being more visible than others so I was an easy target. GM accomplished her mission there because now I am more careful about my personal information being out there for every wacko to search. I too think it is ridiculous that Taiya was pulled into this. From what I can tell she never deserved it.
So this whole thing ended up being a fight between Won and GM? Obviously there is a ton of history here that I dont have the info on, nor do I care to look for it. I just think it is sad that FWoP tried to say she was taking down the people who bashed JM and then never addressed the facts on MWoP.
I really dont know what to think anymore.
NAD - I'm not innocent and I never said I was. What I hope is that everyone has their say and then be done with it. As for me I think threatening people is wrong and it is dangerous. I've seen people shot in the face for less than the crap that's being said on twitter and gmwop. I have a lot of respect for AP for bringing this out into the open.
I'm still reading and catching up.
I'm not the one that is c&p ing stuff from SIP to others. I don't know who is, but clearly it wasn't Erin, who was banned under suspicion.
I'm angry and hurt, and clearly naive. I thought I could come and chat while I watched TV or when I got bored during the day without a motherfucking drama-fest. Clearly I was wrong.
...
poop? Is this thing on?
Now I forgot what I was going to say.
I'm here Margaret. For about 2 seconds.
Take a night off from Daisy and look what happens.
Back much later....
I just read today's fwop and this is all I want to say:
Maria - I have said things about you so touché on the picture of my house. However, I would NEVER threaten anyone’s family. I think it's wrong that your daughter's pictures and Danielle's FB was posted. However, you cannot sit there and act blameless. You opened up the can of worms of threats and unfortunatly someone took the bait. Again, you've been hurt, other people have been hurt let it go. There is nothing good that can come out of threatening other people.
NAD- I never asked "where is the mean GrammieMommy?" or anything of the sort. I may have asked WHO people were, since I don't know a *lot of the names that come up, but I wouldn't have brought them up without reason. I asked about someone else (whose name I promised i wouldn't mention again after e-mailing her and apologizing for even bringing her up even though I just asked who she was... but it started crap and that wasn't my intention) because of a post she made elsewhere that referenced the Daisies and made them look like a bunch of jerks in a place that has nothing to do with the Daisies. Like I said I spoke directly to her in the other place about how I felt it was handled badly, apologized *PRIVATELY* if it was rude and for bringing her up in the first place because I was curious. I addressed R2 at one point because I was sick of the same thing being said over and over again and that was TO her. She is cool as far as I am concerned, and I don't think she has any residual problems with me. She is welcome to address them if she does, and if I owe her an apology she can get it directly from me. Otherwise I said stuff about Kathryn. Who was rude other places (not mwop, as i don't mwop). I felt justified in my commenting about her based on her behavior, however realized later that I wasn't justified, no matter what she said, and that it wasn't me and I was wrong...AND I apologized *PRIVATELY*. I even offered to publicly apologize, but she very graciously accepted my apology and moved on.
I want to make it *perfectly, *crystal clear that NONE of these things had anything to do with fwop. I am not dancing to their tune. R2 and the person I won't name I was speaking directly to, and Kathryn I chose to apologize to for my very own reasons (reading the Bible and realizing I was wrong- mock it if you will, I really don't care). Otherwise I have been curious and asked about people and I have said things like "That does sound crazy" based on descriptions others gave.
Jill- I think we all want that- a place to come and chat, figure out what in the hell to make for dinner that we havn't eaten 12 million times before, tell funny stuff about our day, and trick SW into clicking on blogs. :)
Notcdaisy- I have a (serious) question, or two.
If fwop was a cautionary tale, about public blogs and watching what info is given out, and what is said, why pick OD? I have seen much more inflammatory things being said on mwop, and other sites (under 1000 braincells). It seems like a lot of work to go through hundreds of comments here to find only a *few that are 'mean'.
And what defines 'mean' or inflamatory? If I say, "Wendy was playing both sides against the middle" is that any different than saying "Wendy is such a hypocrite"?
Or if I say "Wendy was accused of stealing from a cancer site" instead of "Wendy is a thief"?
And what about opinions? If it is my opinion, I am willing to stand by it, and it IS something I would say irl if needed, shouldn't I be able to say it on the internet without it being labeled as hateful? And by opinions, I mean *respectfully stated. "In my opinion she has issues" not "In my opinion she is a freaking lunatic."
Again, I would really like your opinion. It seems like there is a fine line between some things, and what may be offensive to one person may not be to another. Although, truth be told, chatting about everyday stuff is why I keep coming back. Not the debates and drama. I have kids...I am full up on debates and drama!
That being said if someone wants to grow up and address something I have said, to my face, I am a very reasonable person, and I would happily discuss it and decide whether it needed an apology or an explanation. My online person is the same as my off. I am human and say things I shouldn't at times and have to apologize. The thing is that I am an adult. I will own my words, and like I have done, apologize if what I said is off. If i feel I need an apology I will go to that person and ask for it, by actually bringing up the wrong-doing. I don't hide and throw things at them and antagonize/bully from afar. I am also the farthest thing from dramatic that exists on this planet, so I am definitely not bringing drama anywhere.
I have largely been off of Daisy because of this whole debacle in which I am NOT involved beyond asking questions about people I didn't know. I was very honest and nice to fwop when I e-mailed them, and when I left my ONE comment there. I did not attack them, I did not say things about the people personally running it. I was polite, which is truly how i am. I do not antagonize, call names, etc. as a general rule and any fool could see that by looking at my BF and the MAJORITY of my Daisy posts. Which are the ONLY 2 forum/blogs that I chat at on the whole of the internet. The rest of my time spent online is spent farming or chatting with my MOTHER, for Pete's sake. Big, bad criminal that I am, my mother is one of my best friends, and we chat daily.
Now everyone can back the heck off and leave. me. alone. I am so done with all of this nonsense. I am going back to ignoring anyone who doesn't want to address something to my face and staying off of Daisy until it goes away. (although I have no problems with anyone on Daisy, FTR. I wasn’t around for any name/address outing, and I wouldn’t have been involved in it if there were.)
I have a fantastic life, of which I wouldn’t trade. I don’t need internet drama and bs in it, although it certainly isn’t keeping me up at night, which is why I have chosen to stay away and stay out. Now everyone can drop my name, leave me out of it and fight amongst yourselves. From now on if you bring up my name you better be bringing some specific problem to me that I have caused, with the end product being that we are clearing the air, otherwise I want nothing to do with it.
And sorry for my typos :) Up way too late. Somehow I think I am not the only one who was either!
Great points Taiya. Will miss 'seeing' you. Let us know when you have that baby!
Taiya - I'm going to miss you too. You have my e-mail address, I'd love to see a picture of your little one. xoxo
::stumbling in with a cup of coffee:: Morning! What's new?
Nothing much lol. Getting ready to go mop the floor. You're jealous of my exciting life, no?
Good day, all. How's everyone doing today?
SW, I saw the band in capes last night. How odd!
So jealous, Erin! And thanks for mocking my having to start all over with day one of no Mckclicking! :-)
Bella, I feel a bit hungover. Had the weirdest dream that I'll tell in a bit.
Did it involve skinny men in various decorative capes?
If so, I'm all ears.
LOL No Bella! I dreamed that I was in college, and involved in some major internet drama. Cough. And went to the computer lab the day after the drama and one of the guys who worked in the lab looked like a bomb had gone off near his head. His head was black with soot and his face was bloody. I asked what happened, and he said it was a result of my participation in the internet drama. He was really nice about it and didn't blame me, but I felt terrible. My dreams are so hard to interpret, aren't they? ;-)
"My dreams are so hard to interpret, aren't they?"
I think it means you're going to win the lottery, SW.
Good morning, Daisy-nam! I bet some teenager somewhere is paying for this one!
That's all I have to say.
I have a much more exciting life than EL. I have floors to vacuum, *and mop, AND I have laundry. AND typing. Envy me.
I'll be sure to wear protective headgear around you from now on, SW.
Morning Ladies....
Mulie you still havent had that baby?? :) Winning the lotto before the baby could be a good thing.
I'm gonna win the lottery! Awesome! ::heading off to buy tickets::
So. . .now what?
Well Jill now we all put on our big girl pants and continue on.
We grab our cup of coffee/soda/alcoholic beverage get the best spot on the porch and continue on.
We recognize that not everyone is going to like us or what we say or how we live our lives but maybe they will stop threatening people. Maybe now they will follow their own words and not be more then the bullies they accuse us of being.
If you win, SW, don't forget my cut for interpreting your dream! (Although, I'm sure you will higher some lawyer to get you out of it.)
Jill - I don't guess there's anything to do but carry on. Hopefully there isn't a lot more ugliness that *can be dragged out. I would imagine Wendy is going to go into a rodent-discovery-banning frenzy over there now, though.
I have a major headache from catching up *and trying to work. I'm such a wuss.
But....damn!
Taiya - I've really enjoyed our past couple of weeks together and getting to know you a little ::sniff sniff::
Good luck with your baby! I don't blame you a bit, you were an innocent bystander.
Jill - who knows. I just want good FUN banter.
SW - did you sign up for that dream study that was on CNN? You should have!
Jill, 8 more days! 7.5 really, right?
i read it all. i will say this:
i never thought it was GM. i never spoke badly of her. every time i communicated with her, she was unfailingly kind. neither do i believe that wendy is the one sending info. there is not enough proof for me.
i was listed there too, at fwop, and i know i've done nothing for which i should have been listed there besides chatting here, mwop, and at one time ohih. i've not called people names, cussed them out, or been derogatory about appearances or other things like that. i have not understood people like JM and said so. i've also tried to be fair in my dealings, speakings, and writings about other people.
i was still listed. i have not commented on it, because i did not believe it would do any good.
i have also seen a mentality here at times where people do jump on the wagon of being unkind to someone. sometimes that person was i. sometimes it was other people. as a whole, i think the intent and agenda here is kind, silly, playful, somewhat raunchy, but always with a good heart. at times, i think the anger and frustration over takes that agenda.
and that's with good reason, it'd be silly to think that everyone was always nice and happy. whoever ran Fwop was really able to tweak people's chains, though, and get a rise out of them.
and for all that, i don't have a problem with either mwop, sips, or daisy. it's the nature of communication. unless someone proved to me with either complete emails and headers that i was maligned in private, which has not been sent to me per my request that i was going to forget about it, or emails posted here that show without a doubt that whoever is responsible for the drama, i won't believe it. too much is at stake for me.
But Shannon what if I don't want to wear pants? :)
I just want to chit chat with my invisible girlfriends. If I wanted drama I'd talk to my MIL.
For whatever reason the county decided to make the last two days of school half days and they are exam days. Yay!
SW, pass me some of your coffee. I couldn't get to sleep last night after I left here way too late. I'm dying.
We got a ton of snow. Our poor trees are all hanging low to the ground, heavy branches with snow. We have a birds nest in our pine tree and I'm praying mama and her eggs are OK. I was so worried about that last night and that was partly why I couldn't sleep. You know what's weird. I HATE birds, they freak me out.
Jill: Embrace the fun stuff and let everything else fall by the way side (as much as possible) This is all just nuts.
Taiya: I don't know you very well, but I do believe they picked someone that wasn't involved at all knowing full well all the Daisies would fight for you and engage with them. You seem so sweet and we all know you didn't do anything at all, you didn't deserve to be singled out. {{{hugs}}}
RiM said:
rodent-discovery-banning
Something about that just doesn't sound right. LOL
Jill, you *could always just run around in your big girl *panties. I hear they even have some of those butt floss ones ;)
RiM- You are rude and wrong to even insinuate I would mop my floors without vacuuming first. Sheesh.
::worrying about Tara's birds and worrying that Tara hates birds::
And Tara, yes, Daisies will fight for their peeps. ::nods::
LOL Jill you dont have to wear pants so long as you promise to at least wear some kind of panties :)
And yay for two more days off WOOHOO
Tara doesnt your weather guy know that it is officially spring now there is supposed to be no more snow now.
EL - there are entire message boards on the Internet dedicated to the shocking ways of your housekeeping. ::shakes head::
Rhys, I say this respectfully, I don't know GM, haven't had a wink's worth of interacation with her. We know how I feel about Wendy and what she is. All that aside, it's impossible,it seems to me,to look at what's been put out there in all the different forums and say there isn't proof of exactly what went down.
I have a bird phobia, SW. I know, I'm weird.
Shannon-the weather here is on it's own program. In a few weeks it will be almost 90, but for now, we have snow.
SW, I have a more important matter to discuss with you. What is my cut of the lotto winnings going to be? I would like 50% of any winnings between $50-$5000, 45% of $5001-$100,000, and 40% of $100,000+
I believe you will see this as reasonable and would like a conformation in the form of a response that I will happily screen shot for my personal records.
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