oopsie daisy...i said that?: The Shortround.

Tuesday, March 16, 2010

The Shortround.

Your sweetness fix for today. :-)

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Shannon said...: AP :)

I hate to copy it all but I want to because I cant do it justice:

I've been sitting here thinking on all this. I've been self-supporting since I was 18 and the only time I haven't worked was during pregnancy/shortly thereafter and these last few years. I'm incredibly independent. That said, there was one time in my life where I trusted the person I was with enough to relax and not be so independent for years, knowing it was safe to do so. I still worked, but only because I wanted to. It was honestly a relief to know someone else was "in charge", someone who honestly put me first and had my best interests at heart always. It was good to be protected and appreciated in that way. All I ever had to do was to say "I think we should..." and she was all over it in an effort to make me happy as long as it didn't strike her as stupid or dangerous. Or against her Catholic beliefs but that's a whole 'nother story. Anyway, that's when I first learned how this all was really supposed to work and how good it could be for both parties, when done right. It really did change my mind about a lot of things, I admit.

It is all so true it really is. Ya know and I think I would be willing to give it all over and such so easily. And you are so right you really are.....things dont work when both people are "in the drivers seat" so to speak. I think I really need to remember that myself sometimes because both Josh and I like to have control, I think it is time I start working on trusting him with more of it :); March 16, 2010 at 2:23 AM
kristin said...: Morning ladies - I want to add to this but must get ready for work :)

FT - he is absolutely adorable!; March 16, 2010 at 7:18 AM
PJ said...: Lovin' me some Shortround this a.m.!; March 16, 2010 at 8:40 AM
kristin said...: Morning CK!; March 16, 2010 at 8:41 AM
PJ said...: AP - thinking about your experience with someone looking out for your best interests.

I don't necessarily think it has to be the man in the relationship. I mean, for you it was your female partner.

I think there's a difference between partners looking out for each other, caring for each other, and one of them being "in charge".

Sometimes one partner takes more responsibility for certain areas of the relationship. Sometimes it shifts.

For example, my husband is usually making lots more money than I am. But since he's been unemployed, it's my turn. And I'm glad I can do that now.; March 16, 2010 at 8:53 AM
PJ said...: If people are emotionally and psychologically healthy, without baggage or dysfunctional behavior, there's potential for both to look out for each other.

But how many of us don't carry crap around that keeps us from being able to do that?; March 16, 2010 at 8:55 AM
Margo said...: Morning ladies.; March 16, 2010 at 8:55 AM
kristin said...: Morning ladies!; March 16, 2010 at 8:58 AM
kristin said...: I meant morning margaret! doh!; March 16, 2010 at 8:59 AM
Anonymous said...: Hi all.

FT- Shortround is adorable.; March 16, 2010 at 9:01 AM
Anonymous said...: Morning Ladies.

Much needed cuteness today. FT, Shortround is adorable.; March 16, 2010 at 9:05 AM
kristin said...: as for what was said last night - I grew up with all women and my father. I was the oldest daughter, my father was a hypochondriac - so he was either in the hospital or working. In our household there was no girl job or boy job. My mom and I would mow the lawn and all of us would pitch in and do trash, etc.

At 16 I got a job and soon after that, got another job. When I was 17 my parents split up and my mom struggled to support 3 kids. There were times when we got hand outs. I learned early on that I had to learn not to rely on a man. I would love for a guy to sweep in and take care of me but I know that if it doesn't happen, I can take care of myself.

I take offense when guys blow me off b/c I am a girl. I remember offering to help an older gentleman (who was getting chemo treatment) put a heavy barrel into the back of his pick up truck. He said no, he was waiting for his friend. I know he probably didn't want me to get hurt, etc - but I play football and softball, I can help you lift a barrel into your truck - but whatever.

That said, when I am in a relationship, I do want a man who is more aggressive (not really physically) but someone who will take charge and can take care of things. That is where I think I am struggling in my relationship now.

Morning Corinne!; March 16, 2010 at 9:07 AM
PJ said...: Hi Kristin, Corinne, Sandy, Margaret, plus those in hiding.; March 16, 2010 at 9:25 AM
Anonymous said...: Morning CK.

My only regret is that I did not continue to work.; March 16, 2010 at 9:39 AM
Anonymous said...: Hi CK, Kristin & Sandy!

I'll be quiet today because I'm in a foul mood. (my day = Murphy's law - I ruined my favorite sweater by spilling coffee on it at breakfast, couldn't find my car keys & wore boots that are different colors (same model which I own in brown and black))

I should've stayed in bed this morning.; March 16, 2010 at 9:40 AM
kristin said...: Oh no Corinne! :(

Hope your day gets better!; March 16, 2010 at 9:45 AM
PJ said...: Corinne,
Here's some advice for you for tomorrow -

Eat a live toad in the morning and nothing worse will happen to you all day.; March 16, 2010 at 9:56 AM
Anonymous said...: Thanks, Kristin.; March 16, 2010 at 9:57 AM
PJ said...: Sorry it's been such a day...; March 16, 2010 at 9:57 AM
Anonymous said...: CK- Lol ;); March 16, 2010 at 9:58 AM
Nilia said...: Shortround = :0)

Off to see King Tut today, catch up with you all much later. For those of you on March Break, enjoy!; March 16, 2010 at 10:02 AM
Anonymous said...: FT- Enjoy your day :); March 16, 2010 at 10:08 AM
Angie said...: Morning everybody! Sorry about your sweater and your bad day Corinne.

BD, thank you for your comments in response to AP's mind-blowing women-should-be-subservient-to-men stance last night. I was starting to think I was in the Twilight Zone, or Bizarro Daisyland.

And CK, you raise an excellent point: "I don't necessarily think it has to be the man in the relationship. I mean, for you it was your female partner."

I totally get that it would be great to have someone you could trust and rely on to be the "head of household," but how often is that *really the man anyway? In my experience, both in my own family where my Mom was the "boss" and in most of my friends and families' families, the women are the "boss." So I don't get why -- other than the obvious religious teachings -- there's an assumption that men are more suited to the role of head of the household. The whole "women are too emotional" argument doesn't sway me.; March 16, 2010 at 10:09 AM
Angie said...: The Shortround is truly The cutest!; March 16, 2010 at 10:10 AM
Jennifer-Lynn said...: I think a lot of women today think that feminism is a dirty word (this is a general statement, not directed at anyone here). And in many ways, that's great, because that means that the work that those feminists did decades ago WORKED, and now those "benefits," for lack of a better word, are taken for granted. Still, I wish more people appreciated that (again, not talking about people here; actually kind of referring to my best friend).; March 16, 2010 at 10:19 AM
Jennifer-Lynn said...: Oh. And good morning. ;); March 16, 2010 at 10:19 AM
PJ said...: If you are female and ...
... you can vote, thank a feminist.
... you get paid as much as men doing the same job, thank a feminist.
... you went to college instead of being expected to quit after high school so your brothers could go because "You'll just get married anyway," thank a feminist.
... you can apply for any job, not just "women's work," thank a feminist.
... you can get or give birth control information without going to jail, thank a feminist.
... your doctor, lawyer, pastor, judge or legislator is a woman, thank a feminist.
... you play an organized sport, thank a feminist.
... you can wear slacks without being excommunicated from your church or run out of town, thank a feminist.
... your boss isn't allowed to pressure you to sleep with him, thank a feminist.
... you get raped and the trial isn't about your hemline or your previous boyfriends, thank a feminist.
... you start a small business and can get a loan using only your name and credit history, thank a feminist.
... you are on trial and are allowed to testify in your own defense, thank a feminist.
... you own property that is solely yours, thank a feminist.
... you have the right to your own salary even if you are married or have a male relative, thank a feminist.
... you get custody of your children following divorce or separation, thank a feminist.
... you get a voice in the raising and care of your children instead of them being completely controlled by the husband/father, thank a feminist.
... your husband beats you and it is illegal and the police stop him instead of lecturing you on better wifely behavior, thank a feminist.
... you are granted a degree after attending college instead of a certificate of completion, thank a feminist.
... you can breast feed your baby discreetly in a public place and not be arrested, thank a feminist.
... you marry and your civil human rights do not disappear into your husband's rights, thank a feminist.
... you have the right to refuse sex with a diseased husband [or just "husband"], thank a feminist.
... you have the right to keep your medical records confidential from the men in your family, thank a feminist.
... you have the right to read the books you want, thank a feminist.
... you can testify in court about crimes or wrongs your husband has committed, thank a feminist.
... you can choose to be a mother or not a mother in your own time not at the dictates of a husband or rapist, thank a feminist.
... you can look forward to a lifespan of 80 years instead of dying in your 20s from unlimited childbirth, thank a feminist.
... you can see yourself as a full, adult human being instead of a minor who needs to be controlled by a man, thank a feminist.; March 16, 2010 at 10:26 AM
PJ said...: Oh, and good morning BD!; March 16, 2010 at 10:26 AM
Jennifer-Lynn said...: I don't want to put words in AP's mouth here, but I think the "submission" that she speaks of involves a certain amount of respect between partners that does not automatically jump into the minds of people when they hear the word.

I'll give an example here. The money we have in savings is in Mr. BD's account, because in the years past he was an ant and I was a grasshopper who did things like fly to Barcelona on 5 days notice. I consider this "his" money, even though we've used it on things like the down payment for this house, etc.

While I was visiting my parents last year, we got a call at 11:00 p.m. It was Mr. BD. His sister called to ask if she could borrow $4,000.
His answer? "I have to talk to BD1125 first." Technically, that is his money, from his paychecks from the past 10 years, but he respected me enough to include me in the decision making process, even though he was inclined to give it to her and, in my mind, was well within his rights to do so.

My mom was stunned that he asked me, but it didn't seem unusual.

Does what I'm saying make any sense with regard to what AP wrote?; March 16, 2010 at 10:27 AM
PJ said...: BD - it makes sense to me. Mr. BD has some wonderful qualities, doesn't he?; March 16, 2010 at 10:29 AM
Anonymous said...: Makes sense to me BD. Sigh, I wish I had that kind of relationship. That's what I thought I was getting. Everything has been lumped onto my plate and I don't like it. I dont' like the fact that I have to make all the decisions. I was looking for a partner not another child.; March 16, 2010 at 10:35 AM
kristin said...: I hear ya Sandy!

That is what I am looking for.; March 16, 2010 at 10:37 AM
Jennifer-Lynn said...: CK: Yeah. Sometimes he's all right. :); March 16, 2010 at 10:39 AM
PJ said...: Gotta get ready for work. See you all later.

Sandy, feeling sad that your husband isn't what you need and want.; March 16, 2010 at 10:42 AM
Angie said...: Morning, BD, and I totally agree that a lot of women think "feminism" is a dirty word. I think the conservative media gets credit for that.

It's amazing the backlash that followed the gains women made in the 60's and 70's.; March 16, 2010 at 10:43 AM
Margo said...: I think it's hard to find a man who isn't a teenage boy is grown up clothes. I love my husband, he's a good father and partner but he's still a boy in many ways :); March 16, 2010 at 10:44 AM
PJ said...: Many younger women don't realize what they have as a result of the hard work of "feminists".

I think men ultimately have it better, too. People are free to be who they are, rather than live within prescribed role models.; March 16, 2010 at 10:45 AM
Angie said...: CK, thanks for posting that. It is very inspirational and more women need to hear it and remember how far we've come.; March 16, 2010 at 10:46 AM
Robin in Montana said...: Morning all. Just reading and thinking about the whole feminism/submission/role thing.; March 16, 2010 at 10:50 AM
Margo said...: Growing up my friend's mother was a feminist who regularly made the news. Her platform was you can have it all but behind the scenes her family's life was shit. She treated her husband like crap and the only time she noticed her kids was when she paraded them out for the cause. She has always looked down on women who made the choice to be SAHMs. On the flip side I'm privledged to know women who would never think of themselves as feminists, who fought their way through the glass ceiling and not at the expense of their families.; March 16, 2010 at 10:54 AM
kristin said...: Women have stepped up and entered a "man's" world but men haven't really moved over to the "women's" side - sure there are a few stay at home dads or fathers who do both - work full time and take care of the children.

I do think a lot of men still have the mentality that women need to stay home and take care of the kids - and I have no problem with women doing that - it's a tough job, but I also think that if a woman is working and taking care of the kids, then the man/men need to accept some other responsibilities too. JMO; March 16, 2010 at 10:54 AM
Margo said...: I personally do not know why any woman would want to be a SAHM but I have that choice. When men want to do it there is a stigma attached to it.; March 16, 2010 at 11:01 AM
Anonymous said...: I do not like being a SAHM. Some days I feel like I have lost my sense of "self". I chose to stay home because my daughter became very ill at 6 months old.

I have more to contribute to this world than sweeping up Cherrios and washing floors. If I could have a do over, I would have continued working at least on a part-time basis.

My husband and I were partners in the beginning when I did work. As soon as I stayed home, I became his mother too. He stopped helping. He stopped contributing to the marriage. It became all about him, not us or our little family. It has remained that way ever since.; March 16, 2010 at 11:11 AM
Anonymous said...: So, now he works full time but I get to stay home and when I mean stay home...God forbid if I take the kids anywhere other than the park because he feels like he's missing out on something.

We had a zoo membership. I thought it would be great just to be able to pick the kids up and go to the zoo.

I did it once and he pouted for a week. BTW, he hates the zoo anyway.; March 16, 2010 at 11:15 AM
Lindsay said...: Good morning. Hmmmm. Lots to think about this morning.

I tried to have it all working full time and raising 2 kids. It wasn't happening for me. I like to give it my all at everything, and *I felt that either my career or my kids were getting only part of me. So I chose to stay home once I realized that I didn't think our family was complete. I miss working so very much. I was in charge of half a company that was a subcontractor for Boeing and loved to be in charge. I miss the meetings and the lunches and the deadlines and the pats on the back for a job well done. And now I'm insanely jealous of my husband because he gets to have those things. And it's making me a not nice person. But my kids are only going to be with me for the next 15 years, so I want to enjoy it to the fullest. And Travis has said he would love to stay home. Sadly, I just can't make the money he makes or I think I would trade and let him be the stay at home dad.

And I'm not saying that people who work can't work and raise a family. I know many mom's who do and do a great job. It's just *me personally who can't hack it.; March 16, 2010 at 11:15 AM
Anonymous said...: Margaret, my husband won't last 1/2 a day watching the kids, cleaning a house or doing laundry. I don't think most men could do it. There are a few and my neighbor is one of them.; March 16, 2010 at 11:16 AM
Lindsay said...: Ooops! And I forgot to say that The Shortround is the reason I am in this mess of being a SAHM to begin with :) Is he the cutest thing or what?; March 16, 2010 at 11:18 AM
Angie said...: Sandy, that makes me sad about the zoo. :-( Men suck.; March 16, 2010 at 11:21 AM
Angie said...: Lindsay, he's definitely the cutest thing!; March 16, 2010 at 11:22 AM
Anonymous said...: OT- my cockatiel is whistling the Andy Griffith theme song. It is so funny.; March 16, 2010 at 11:22 AM
Margo said...: I'm sorry Sandy I know you are in a tough spot with your AH. He and his mother are going to be upset with you no matter what you do - so live your life. If you are not happy your kids won't be happy. When you talk about your situation it sounds so much like a friend of mine. She finally had enough after her AH started hitting her. She turned it around and now she's happy and his dumb ass lives in a room at his mother's where he spends most of the day at the computer with his pants around his ankles.; March 16, 2010 at 11:24 AM
Anonymous said...: SW, even if I said I going to take the kids to Chucky Cheese, he'd pout and through a two year old tantrum. It's pathetic.

Then there's the abuse I have to take from my MIL.

OY!; March 16, 2010 at 11:25 AM
Anonymous said...: That one day will be AH, Margaret. Only his mama won't take him back.; March 16, 2010 at 11:27 AM
Margo said...: I'm not saying there is anything wrong with men or women being SAHMs - I just know it's not for me. I don't think men do it for a number of reasons - one being that men are by nature not nurturing. Look at the number of men who walk away from their children compared to dead beat moms.; March 16, 2010 at 11:29 AM
Robin in Montana said...: Sandy - I am so sorry. I was so, so miserable for such a long time in my marriage, too. It's hard and it's scary and I feel guilt like you wouldn't believe, but I am so much better off without him.; March 16, 2010 at 11:29 AM
Margo said...: My friend calls her ex dick head - one day he did one of those contests at the auto show where the last person touching the car after 2 days wins the car. We heard on the radio that he won, called the radio station that held the contest, she proved he's a dead beat dad and they gave her money instead of giving dick head the car.; March 16, 2010 at 11:33 AM
Lindsay said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; March 16, 2010 at 11:34 AM
suz said...: Hi Daisies, just popping in after being MIA for a few days. Interesting conversation.
I am pretty lucky, hubs and I talk through most things. If there is a big decision to be made he has the final say. That is just the way I was raised.
As for role reversal(stay at home dads) We have a friend who is a SAHD. His wife has a Doctorate degree, does a lot of speaking engagements and travels frequently. They have 4 kids and he has been the one who has stayed home. It works for them.
I guess you have to find what works for you. I think being a stay at home mom is a lot harder than people give it credit.; March 16, 2010 at 11:35 AM
Angie said...: Margaret, great story re the car contest!; March 16, 2010 at 11:36 AM
Margo said...: whew, didn't want to offend my rehab roomie!; March 16, 2010 at 11:36 AM
Lindsay said...: My IRL BFF calls her ex Fuck Wad.

Good for your friend! That was luck or divine intervention that she heard about him winning. He would have probably tried to keep that a secret.; March 16, 2010 at 11:36 AM
suz said...: Cute picture of Shortround!

Sandy, you do deserve better, that is the truth!; March 16, 2010 at 11:37 AM
Anonymous said...: Margaret, it's not for me either. Unfortunately I got stuck in a rut but now I see light at the end of the tunnel.

There are some perks to the SAHM and the first year or so I did it, it was fine. Then it was like okay how many days in a row can I go and stand at the park. How many days can I go walk the Mall and not be able to shop because we lost almost 75K in salary.

Like I said before my only regret is that I did not keep my foot in the workplace door.; March 16, 2010 at 11:37 AM
kristin said...: Margaret - that is an awesome story.

For me, I have to work - not a choice, although given a choice - I would choose to work, or at least do volunteer work. It gives me a sense of "me" - although I have lost a lot of that and am trying to find it again.

Sandy - I am sorry - and if you want to talk - you know where to find me - I do agree though - do what you want/need to make yourself happy - it will definitely benefit the kiddos.; March 16, 2010 at 11:38 AM
Lindsay said...: Okay, I just deleted my comment because it made zero sense. That's what I get for trying to make my kids brush their teeth and type :)

Anyway, M, you know you didn't offend me. Everyone has a different talent, and mine is not working and raising kids :)

And Sandy you know how sorry I am and how I really know you deserve better :); March 16, 2010 at 11:39 AM
suz said...: Sw,
I know you have probably already were asked and answered but how was the dinner party on Saturday?; March 16, 2010 at 11:40 AM
Anonymous said...: Thanks Kristin. I'm so used to the crap thrown at me. I've gotten really good at ducking!

My family calls my AH--Fat Ass.; March 16, 2010 at 11:42 AM
Anonymous said...: Margaret, the car story....awesome!; March 16, 2010 at 11:44 AM
kristin said...: My grandmother used to (well and still does) a jack ass (said in her japanese accent).

As for my baby daddy - no one really talks about him so he hasn't been giving a nickname :); March 16, 2010 at 11:45 AM
Anonymous said...: Great Kristin, now I'm trying to say jack ass with a japanese accent. lol; March 16, 2010 at 11:47 AM
kristin said...: and i make no sense -

should have said - My grandmother used to (well and still does) "calls my father" a jack ass (said in her japanese accent).; March 16, 2010 at 11:48 AM
kristin said...: lol...sandy! you could be like CK and bite your tongue too, that would be interesting :); March 16, 2010 at 11:48 AM
Angie said...: Hi Suz, it was fun! The two things I made that were most complimented were Pioneer Woman's Olive Cheese Bread and my frozen peanut butter pie. First time I've made the cheese bread (Robin's suggestion) and it was soooo good!; March 16, 2010 at 11:49 AM
Lisa said...: Popping in here and good morning! Busy day today but BD, what you explained is *exactly* what I mean, yes. I hate when "submission" is the label put on it because when done right, there's a mutual respect even though one is the official leader. And yes, I think it can absolutely be a partner of either sex in that position but all things being equal and both people being in the right place in their hearts, in a typical male/female relationship, I do believe men (not boy-men) are better suited for that role.

I also think that ideally, kids need a parent home with them until school age and preferably their mom. *ducks and runs*; March 16, 2010 at 11:54 AM
Anonymous said...: Olive chees bread, yum. I'm going to have to try and make that.; March 16, 2010 at 11:54 AM
Anonymous said...: chees/cheese.; March 16, 2010 at 11:55 AM
Anonymous said...: Don't duck and run, The AP. I've been waiting with much anticipation for the school age to start for me.

What you just described is the relationship I had hoped on having. Maybe one day I will have it.; March 16, 2010 at 11:57 AM
Lisa said...: Sandy, I am so sorry...no one should have to live with someone like your husband. I hope that you can get away from that mess someday. :-(; March 16, 2010 at 11:59 AM
suz said...: SW, Good for you! I want to try that olive cheese bread too. And peanut butter pie? OMG, that sounds so good too. Gonna have to try them both, I think this weekend!
I am trying a new recipe for Irish soda bread for St. Paddy's day tomorrow, hope that turns out good.; March 16, 2010 at 11:59 AM
Lisa said...: Sandy, once they're in school you'll feel better, more like yourself. At least I hope so.

Well, I better go shower...it's first examination day for Miss Arse and she's a wreck. It's like dealing with a little kid - I'm trying to bribe her with a trip to Aldi if she's good.; March 16, 2010 at 12:01 PM
suz said...: Hi AP, Bye AP! Wish we had an Aldi's here in Cali. Heard it is a good store. Hope all goes well today.; March 16, 2010 at 12:03 PM
Anonymous said...: Thanks. I've learned to do my own thing. Listen to the fallout and move on. Really, it's his loss. I let what he and his mom say go in one ear and out the other. I've created a good life for me and my kids and that's all that matters.; March 16, 2010 at 12:04 PM
Jennifer-Lynn said...: AP: Let us know what happens with Miss Arse's exam.; March 16, 2010 at 12:05 PM
kristin said...: AP - hope all goes well with Miss Arse - hope you have a flask with you :); March 16, 2010 at 12:05 PM
Josh and Rya said...: Bella's lady-bits letter from last night was frickin' hilarious!!

Hey, AP. Can we get a link up titled The Best of Daisy? Meaty in Memphis deserves it.; March 16, 2010 at 12:06 PM
suz said...: Kristin, lol the flask! Lindsay is the keeper of the flask so she needs to hand it off to AP.; March 16, 2010 at 12:06 PM
Angie said...: *ducks and runs*

Get back here, missy! The problem I have with your preferred men-are-the-masters solution AP is that it's just about as realistic as a Harlequin romance novel. Sure, there are some "good" husbands out there who could pull it off. But in my humble opinion, far more husbands are more like most of the husbands discussed here. So I don't get why men are more "suited" to being the boss. In my opinion, men may be more suited to being the primary breadwinner, simply by default because women are clearly more suited to being nurturers of the children. But why does primary breadwinner = boss of the family? Let the men earn the dough (for those whose families work out that way). And bring it home and give it to the bosswoman.; March 16, 2010 at 12:06 PM
Anonymous said...: Oh that's right. Good luck Miss Arse!; March 16, 2010 at 12:07 PM
kristin said...: Hey J&R!

Yes - Bella's lady bits was truly hysterical last night (I read this morning).; March 16, 2010 at 12:07 PM
Margo said...: In our area daycare is the norm but I still feel guilty. My husband has been out of work since Dec 2008 so at least she's had a break from it this last year. Lots of fishing and slurpees with big daddy Dan!; March 16, 2010 at 12:13 PM
kristin said...: My sisters were primarily always in daycare and now Little man. Sometimes I hate it but other times, I know he needs the social interaction (and I guess if I was a stay at home I could do playdates) but I've gotta do what I gotta do - dontcha know.; March 16, 2010 at 12:15 PM
Jennifer-Lynn said...: Neither of my kids are in daycare because I really am lucky; I get to work from home. But I am having some guilt, because A. started preschool at 3, and I am thinking of starting M. at 2. I wanted to keep her home until 3, to be fair (one started at 3, so the other should), but I think she needs more stimulation, if that makes any sense. She's far more independent than A., even at this age.; March 16, 2010 at 12:18 PM
Margo said...: I just lost a long boring post on daycare guilt - I've had it since Hannah started at 1.5 years. Since my husband has been out of work she's been with him but when he gets back to work she'll be in an after school program for 2 hours a day.; March 16, 2010 at 12:22 PM
Anonymous said...: I'm not so much worried about my almost 10 year old, it's my little guy.; March 16, 2010 at 12:23 PM
Anonymous said...: I hope and pray for full time kindergarten when he starts. We are the only district here that doesn't offer it.; March 16, 2010 at 12:27 PM
T@iy@ said...: Afternoon Daisies,

The Shortround is a doll!

Took me a while to catch up. Lots going on here this morning and last night.; March 16, 2010 at 12:27 PM
Lindsay said...: BD - each of my kids were different, so you shouldn't feel guilty at all. My oldest and now my youngest are starting at 3. My two middles didn't start until 4. My oldest needed the interaction with other kids, and my youngest needs the stimulation.; March 16, 2010 at 12:29 PM
Anonymous said...: Same here Lindsay. C started at 4 and B was 3. I don't think I would have done things differently there.; March 16, 2010 at 12:31 PM
Lindsay said...: TAP - Oh, and duh! I know you've already gone, but I hope all goes well with Miss Arse today.; March 16, 2010 at 12:31 PM
PJ said...: Just interrupting to say The Husband had a phone interview on a new job today. Happy Dance!; March 16, 2010 at 12:32 PM
Anonymous said...: Keeping fingers crossed for The Husband!; March 16, 2010 at 12:33 PM
kristin said...: Yeah for The Husband CK! Hope it goes well!; March 16, 2010 at 12:35 PM
Lindsay said...: Ok, so the whole submission thing has got me thinking. I kind of think Travis is the leader of our house. It's not like he runs out and buys a new car without us talking about it. And it's not like he controls me and tells me what to do or how to do it. And it's not like he controls the finances - I pay most of the bills and give him an allowance :p. I get to be authentic to who I am. I just can't explain it. He is just definitely a natural leader. And I am not as much. But it's all based in respect and not control of one another.; March 16, 2010 at 12:35 PM
PJ said...: Thanks Sandy. It's with a really cool company too.

But hey, we'd take a dull boring company.

Back to lurking.; March 16, 2010 at 12:35 PM
Lindsay said...: Fingers crossed for The Husband :); March 16, 2010 at 12:36 PM
Anonymous said...: You hit it on the head Lindsay. It's all about respect.

If there is no respect, then what is there?; March 16, 2010 at 12:37 PM
Margo said...: Oops - it was posting - disregard one or the other or both!; March 16, 2010 at 12:39 PM
Lindsay said...: I think it does come down to respecting each other as human beings. And I sound all high and mighty like we have some fantastic fairy tale relationship. Trust me. We don't. But he's a good man and he's forgiven me for some unforgiveable stuff and we've made it through. He can be a real douche canoe, trust me. And I can be a real bitch, so I guess we're even :); March 16, 2010 at 12:42 PM
kristin said...: so totally off topic - I'm so mad at myself - I had every intention of going to the gym today - and I went and forgot my change of clothes at home :(; March 16, 2010 at 12:44 PM
Margo said...: Lindsay loves the tube meatster!; March 16, 2010 at 12:44 PM
Lindsay said...: Kristin - I didn't go last night if it makes you feel any better. Tonight I have to get my flabby tushy over there.

M - you know it girl :p He can smuggle it in my trunk any time!; March 16, 2010 at 12:45 PM
Anonymous said...: Oh Lord!; March 16, 2010 at 12:50 PM
Lindsay said...: I know, sorry, TMI. Must go clean my toilets. I'll check in later.; March 16, 2010 at 12:56 PM
Angie said...: "He can smuggle it in my trunk any time!"

Not sure I want to know what that really means!; March 16, 2010 at 12:57 PM
Anonymous said...: CK- Yay! I'm keeping my fingers crossed for The Husband! :)

Bd- Don't feel guilty. I started preschool at 2.5 and my sister was a little over 3. It worked fine and there was no jealousy, whatsoever. :)

Re: submission/marriage/etc.

I admire my parents' marriage. Sure, it's not perfect but they always make decision together and care a lot about each other (e.g. when my mom is sick, my dad will take care of the laundry, dishwasher, etc. just because he wants my mother to rest and take care of herself).

My father has always been adamant that my sister and myself go to college and get a job, to make sure we are financially independent.; March 16, 2010 at 12:59 PM
Angie said...: Yay for The Husband's phone interview, CK!; March 16, 2010 at 1:00 PM
Anonymous said...: SW- I love that you've changed your screen name from 'Southern Woman' to 'The Southern Woman'. Cool.

AP- I hope everything goes well for Miss Arse!; March 16, 2010 at 1:01 PM
PJ said...: Thanks all for The good thoughts.

I'm sending some The Miss Arse's way too.; March 16, 2010 at 1:03 PM
PJ said...: I gotta get some work done, so I'm going to close up here. see you later.; March 16, 2010 at 1:04 PM
Anonymous said...: TheSW- I'm reading PW's Olive cheese bread recipe and this caught my attention:

"Add 1/2 cup mayonnaise. Please do NOT hurl if you don’t like mayonnaise; I promise, you won’t even know it’s there. "

Is it true? Because the recipe looks yummy but I really don't like mayonnaise.; March 16, 2010 at 1:06 PM
Anonymous said...: Sandy- I'm so, so sorry about your AH. It sucks :(; March 16, 2010 at 1:08 PM
Angie said...: I didn't taste the mayonnaise, CK. But I like mayo, so it wouldn't be objectionable to me if I had. I think you should try it with and see what you think.; March 16, 2010 at 1:11 PM
Angie said...: CK = Corinne, sorry.; March 16, 2010 at 1:12 PM
Anonymous said...: TheSW- Thanks. I'll try it with mayo, then. :); March 16, 2010 at 1:15 PM
suz said...: Corinne, my bro makes a garlic bread with mayo, melted butter, garlic oregano, basil, lemon juice and parmesan cheese. You would have no idea it has mayo in it. I am not a huge mayo fan but in bread, like this it is really good.; March 16, 2010 at 1:42 PM
Robin in Montana said...: Corinne - I like mayo, too, so it doesn't bother me, but we have a friend who is so admanatly opposed to mayo that he will make a scene in a restaurant making sure it's not on his sandwich, etc. He says it makes him sick. I call bullshit on that :grin:) and because he irritates the crap out of me I've made it my mission in life to serve him mayo at any opportunity so that he doesn't know until it's all over with. He hate like half a loaf of that olive cheese bread, just raved on and on about it, told his wife she just *had to get the recipe, and never once suspected there was mayo. lol.; March 16, 2010 at 2:25 PM
Robin in Montana said...: So I went to this site based on what I read at PW. Kind of a fun word-nerd game and they donate 10 grains of rice (?what?) for every question you answer right.

http://www.freerice.com/index.php; March 16, 2010 at 2:32 PM
Angie said...: LOL Robin! Did anybody tell him about the mayo after the fact? I would have *had to!; March 16, 2010 at 2:34 PM
Anonymous said...: RiM, my daughter had that as a homework assignment.; March 16, 2010 at 2:35 PM
Angie said...: That is a cool game, Robin! I've donated 310 grains of rice so far, and learned what gimcrack means.; March 16, 2010 at 2:39 PM
Robin in Montana said...: SW - Yes, I told him, and he was pissed, lol. Kind of hard to insist it makes you sick after you've inhaled it and asked for a recipe. :-D He was suspicious of everythign I ever made after that, lol. Fortunatelyh for him, seeing as how I'm shunned and all, he doesn't speak to me any more, so he's safe of any kind of evil mayo-sneakery!

Sandy - what did they do for their homework assignment?; March 16, 2010 at 2:53 PM
Anonymous said...: Played the game. My tax dollars hard at work! Just got an email from C's Spec Ed teacher. She's having a really bad day. My AH and her are leaving Saturday am for Florida to visit the beast. C can't process stress or anxiety. She lashes out and refuses to do all school work.; March 16, 2010 at 2:56 PM
kristin said...: sorry to hear Sandy :(; March 16, 2010 at 3:00 PM
Anonymous said...: RiM, she had to do the multiplication one.; March 16, 2010 at 3:03 PM
Angie said...: I don't really know the shunning backstory, Robin. Care to give a synopsis? What church were you shunned for? What did you do to warrant shunning? Were you a hussy? ;-); March 16, 2010 at 3:03 PM
Lindsay said...: Sandy, that sucks. Hopefully she'll have a good time though and a much needed break when she gets down there. Does she like your MIL?; March 16, 2010 at 3:05 PM
Margo said...: Can someone help me with what goes on at a jewish graveside funeral - i don't want to do something dumb. When I went to my grandfather's it was the first time I had been to a mass - i took communion which was frowned upon and then put a donation into what i thought was a box but was something by the back door that had holy water in it.; March 16, 2010 at 3:07 PM
Robin in Montana said...: SW - It's a very long story, but here's the short version. I was raised Jehovah's Witness. I got disfellowshipped for leaving Travis and boinking someone I was not married to, and because I was not sorry for either thing. :-D; March 16, 2010 at 3:08 PM
Robin in Montana said...: Margaret - I'm sorry, but that made me laugh. I am like a bull in a china shop at any kind of religious deal because I don't know one damn thing about any other religion.; March 16, 2010 at 3:09 PM
Anonymous said...: She's the favorite Grandma, Lindsay.; March 16, 2010 at 3:09 PM
Angie said...: LOL Margaret re freaking the hell out of the Catholics! I can't help with the funeral, other than to suggest you google it. Good luck!; March 16, 2010 at 3:14 PM
Lindsay said...: M - did she go, or are you just planning? I've never actually even known a Jewish person, I don't think.

RiM - I didn't mean to laugh, but my Travis has a friend who is Jehovah's Witness and his friend has spent 3 years trying to convert us. Good to know, we wouldn't qualify any way :)

Sandy - well hopefully she'll enjoy this trip, then. My kids really like my in-laws, too. I guess that means you & I have done a good job of keeping our feelings to ourselves :); March 16, 2010 at 3:16 PM
Angie said...: Good for you for not being sorry, Robin! And for how well leaving Travis has turned out for you!; March 16, 2010 at 3:16 PM
Lindsay said...: Sandy - I'm lazy and don't want to go look for it, but do you put water in your crock pot for corned beef? And how long do you do it for?; March 16, 2010 at 3:18 PM
Anonymous said...: Suz & RiM- Thanks. If I can't taste the mayo, I'm ok with it being there. (Weird, I know)

Now, here's my question: how does PW not weigh 600 lbs? :P; March 16, 2010 at 3:23 PM
Anonymous said...: Sandy- I hope the trip will go well for her :); March 16, 2010 at 3:25 PM
Anonymous said...: Lindsay, I covered it with water and added a clove or two of garlic. I cooked it on low for 4 hours. My took about 7 hours total. I started it at 9am and at about 1pm, I put the cabbage on the top of it and then turned it to high. I had a point cut. I did the potatoes on the stove because there was no room in the inn for the spuds.; March 16, 2010 at 3:26 PM
Margo said...: She's still with us but I know they bury jewish people within 24 hours of death so I want to be prepared.; March 16, 2010 at 3:27 PM
Lindsay said...: Perfect! Thank you!; March 16, 2010 at 3:27 PM
Lindsay said...: M - I really said a prayer for her last night to let go. That sounds mean, but I just can't stand the thought of someone suffering at the end.; March 16, 2010 at 3:31 PM
Margo said...: Thanks for the prayer. I asked her this morning if she was in pain and she shook her head no so for the most part she is just sleeping. She was alert last night when we were repositioning her and this morning - I'm hoping it's her final rally.; March 16, 2010 at 3:33 PM
Robin in Montana said...: Lindsay - that's funny. You can tell him you know a real life 'ex' now.; March 16, 2010 at 3:36 PM
Angie said...: Margaret, I just realized that my post above was insensitive. I didn't know the funeral was someone you were close to, and I'm sorry for not being more respectful. I hope that the end is peaceful.; March 16, 2010 at 3:44 PM
Margo said...: No worries TSW :); March 16, 2010 at 4:05 PM
Margo said...: TSW - no worries I did not take it as insensative.; March 16, 2010 at 4:17 PM
Robin in Montana said...: If someone doesn't refer to me as TRiM soon, I'm going to very, very upset. ::nods::

Margaret, I'm sorry, too.; March 16, 2010 at 4:20 PM
Angie said...: Thanks for being understanding, Margaret. :-)

The Robin, did they make you wear a scarlet letter? :-D; March 16, 2010 at 4:23 PM
Angie said...: Would give Robin Red Breast a new meaning...; March 16, 2010 at 4:26 PM
Angie said...: "TRiM"? Really? :-X; March 16, 2010 at 4:26 PM
kristin said...: TRiM - I LOVE it!

SW - why did you go back to SW and not THE SW?; March 16, 2010 at 4:28 PM
Angie said...: Um, I think some of you need to check out "trim" in urban dictionary. Of course, "rim" doesn't come out better there, so nevermind!

Kristin, I only felt the need to be referred to as THE SW for a short time. Got my fix, moving on. How are you feeling today?; March 16, 2010 at 4:34 PM
kristin said...: Nice SW - not a visual I really care for.

Moving on!

Feeling better thanks! I am still tired but not as bad as this weekend.; March 16, 2010 at 4:36 PM
Robin in Montana said...: Trim. Huh. Well, I'll be damned. You learn something new every day. Okay, don't call me TRiM, and no, I don't want a necklace, either.

And no, no scarlet letter. But my ex-inlaws nearly run off the road so as to avoid looking at my sinful self if they pass me on the street, so that's always fun.; March 16, 2010 at 4:42 PM
Robin in Montana said...: I guess I could just be TR or maybe TW for The Whore. I'm good, either way.; March 16, 2010 at 4:45 PM
Robin in Montana said...: Nobody wants to talk to TW. ::hangs head::; March 16, 2010 at 5:08 PM
kristin said...: Hi TW!; March 16, 2010 at 5:14 PM
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Robin in Montana said...: ::thankful for Kristin and Christy:::; March 16, 2010 at 5:17 PM
Anonymous said...: Are your kids on Spring Break this week TW?; March 16, 2010 at 5:18 PM
kristin said...: no worries TW - I would think I am no better than you (jokingly of course) b/c I am an unwed mother who had a child out of wedlock.

::hangs head in shame :P; March 16, 2010 at 5:20 PM
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Robin in Montana said...: Kristin - I had to think carefully before I befriended a person with such shaky morals as yours, believe you me. ::nods firmly and avoids eye contact:::

Christy - no Spring Break here just yet. They have the last week of March, heading into April, and their dad is getting married that weekend. Katie is going with a friend to Idaho to a motel that has an indoor water park/mini golf/bumper cars, etc., thing the first part of the week and she can barely stand it she's so exicted.; March 16, 2010 at 5:21 PM
kristin said...: Oh, believe you me - I had to think more than twice on friending you too my friend. (chuckling)

The indoor water park, mini golf - sounds like fun!; March 16, 2010 at 5:23 PM
Robin in Montana said...: Kristin - us hookers have to stick together. :nods:; March 16, 2010 at 5:25 PM
kristin said...: lol TW - very true!; March 16, 2010 at 5:26 PM
Angie said...: AP, are you back from taking Miss Arse to her appointment? How did it go?; March 16, 2010 at 5:34 PM
Lindsay said...: Hey hooker twins :) I just had to say that. Carry on.

p.s. I'm not above reproach :p; March 16, 2010 at 5:35 PM
Lisa said...: I'm back...read some at the doctor's office so good luck to Mr. CK! And someone remind me later to make us a "Best Of.."

Miss Arse is so-so, thanks for all the good thoughts. I knew one of her eyes looked funny, smaller than the other, but I put it off to being an old-lady-eye-is-shrinking thing. She, being near blind, couldn't tell it looked funny, something I never thought about and never mentioned to her. Turns out she's got a massive infection somehow back in her eye. They can do the cataract removal but not until this is all cleared up and the doctor is worried enough that she has to go back in 2 days. So, sort of success, sort of not. She wound up losing all her nervousness, though. It's a very no-nonsense place, which she likes. Lol, I was filling out her forms for her and thought I was being all cute by asking the question "Do you do street drugs" really loud. She doesn't miss a beat and, equally loudly, says "Street drugs? You mean like meth or roofies? Nah." How the hell does my mother know about roofies???; March 16, 2010 at 5:38 PM
Angie said...: ROFL re Street drugs AP! (I'm guessing she watches CSI or Law and Order SVU.) I'm sorry about the infection. It's odd that you can have an infection that bad and it not be painful. Poor Miss Arse. :-(; March 16, 2010 at 5:43 PM
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Angie said...: LOL CK.; March 16, 2010 at 5:44 PM
PJ said...: Let's try that again.

According to my first husband's first wife, I "stole" him from her.

In retrospect, I should have let her keep him.; March 16, 2010 at 5:46 PM
Lisa said...: No, no pain and not even itchy. Things are swollen, though and I'd just not noticed. :-/ And I have no idea what she's been watching. Maybe Rush talked about them on the radio or something.

I'm not sure I should be in here with all the whores.; March 16, 2010 at 5:47 PM
Lisa said...: CK, I wish you'd left it alone...I liked the wrong version best. ;-); March 16, 2010 at 5:48 PM
Angie said...: I'm too old to be a whore, AP. You're safe with me.; March 16, 2010 at 5:49 PM
Lisa said...: No, SW, there's an internet market for old whores. I've heard.; March 16, 2010 at 5:49 PM
PJ said...: Blogger is being a pain.

AP - thanks - but more people would have just laughed at me.; March 16, 2010 at 5:50 PM
PJ said...: I was number two. Number three married him after knowing him six weeks (they were engaged after 10 days), and believed his crap for only 2 1/2 years.

::we all told you so, you loser::; March 16, 2010 at 5:51 PM
Lisa said...: They'd not laugh in a bad way, CK. Just in that "I'm so glad someone else does it too!" way.; March 16, 2010 at 5:52 PM
Angie said...: LOL AP. If there were a market for old internet whores, I might be interested. I bet I could still do cybersex. But not much interested in the real thing anymore.; March 16, 2010 at 5:53 PM
Lisa said...: "I bet I could still do cybersex."

STILL?
I smell some stories.; March 16, 2010 at 5:56 PM
kristin said...: sorry - thought you got rid of me by talking about me, nope - can't get rid of me that easily - but i do need to skidaddle to go get my child.

see ya guys in a bit!; March 16, 2010 at 5:56 PM
PJ said...: I'm hopeless - please don't tell The Husband that the potatoes he just kindly scrubbed are now going to be peeled before they're cooked for mashed potatoes.

Queen of the brain fart here!; March 16, 2010 at 5:57 PM
Angie said...: "STILL?
I smell some stories."

Oh come on! Everybody's done it! You know, back in the day when the internet was new and all? Right? ::looking frantically from face to face for a knowing smile::; March 16, 2010 at 6:03 PM
Robin in Montana said...: <---for all my whorish ways, hasn't had cybersex. Well, I talk dirty with Kelly on IM at work but that doesn't count; right???; March 16, 2010 at 6:06 PM
Robin in Montana said...: gotta run! Be back tomorrow! Hope you all have great nights!; March 16, 2010 at 6:06 PM
Angie said...: Night Robin! And yes, it does count! :-); March 16, 2010 at 6:07 PM
PJ said...: Despite being a homewrecker, no cybersex for me, either, TSW.; March 16, 2010 at 6:11 PM
Lisa said...: Well, fine. I guess I'm with SW and TW. :-D; March 16, 2010 at 6:38 PM