Saturday, April 17, 2010
It's Saturday - amuse your kids while you nap.
After you nap, please visit Chris and see if you can find it in your heart to help him out. It you can't donate, pray. Or offer up some ideas on ways to get him some much needed assistance. Anything, really...help is help and they appreciate it all. Caring For Chris
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 386 of 386 Newer› Newest»Damn blogger. I know when I send this, it'll cause the one above it to finally show. Grrr.
CK, great news for your husband! Kristin, I'm glad the job fair went okay. Did you feel pretty in your new suit? Hi Karen!
And it's doing nothing. No posts. No nothing. It may as well be another kid in my house.
Maybe it's just God's way of telling me to get off my ass and get something done.
CK - woo hoo!
Do we have a different color duct tape than pink -I don't do pink! :)
Yes, I did feel "professional" today but I have blisters, damn new shoes.
I'm excited and hope it works out. One of the principals recognized my last name - she knows my sister and we sat and talked for 20 minutes and she likes my "passion". It was a great conversation.
LMAO @ the R2 comment.
Testing 1,2,3! Blogger sucks!
Where is everyone? I'm all alone?
Okay, for real? It's still broken?
My husband brought home 5 Guys fries which makes up for the fact that I'm been home all day with Hannah in the house - not able to go outside for fear of attack by pollen worms...
Kristin - I missed it. What are you hoping to teach?
Margaret - 7th grade science would be the job i want but I am certified to teach anything in grades 4-8.
Science #1
Math #2
English/LA #3
So ladies I am loving that I just read like 20 comments on a new page yet it still says I am reading 201 of 201 :) Blogger is a bitch!!!
I went yard saleing today....found a Rockford Fosgate amp for $20 bucks. Helen and I are going to go and look at a dresser I found for $65. It is a nice older dresser that has like 3 times the drawers that my current one has. We currently only use 2 out of 5 because 2 are totally gone and one has the bottom going out.
That would be great - summers off with LM. I hope it works out for you!
Congrats Mr. CK!
Good Luck Kristin.
Good grief, RiM!
Hi everyone else!
Christy! Heya!
Okay - going to go to the store - gotta get new cleats, since mine finally had a blow out on Monday - I've had those FOREVER!
Need to get birdseed too.
*see ya!
Hi Kristin...and bye!
Happy B-day Sandy...I hope you have a good dinner. You deserve a nice night out!
Is everyone still wearing duct tape?
I'm telling you, blogger starts acting nasty when it's time to change pages!
I am, Christy! Hi!
I'm not wearing duct tape, and I am not going to. I have emails from Wendy referencing Rhys as a scammer and had a phone conversation with her about how she found out how much money Rhys' husband makes, and how she can't believe that she sells herself as "poor". Gah. Just baiting and switching, moving chess pieces around to improve your position. And, I bought into that for a long time. I supported her banning Kristin and Tee, and I own that, but I supported her blind...I own that, too. It's one of those live-and-learn situations, and I have apologized to Kristin, and she and I are okay now.
Quit invoking R2. We already had TeenyCandy post lately, and I don't think I could take another "Last-Worder" here right now.
How many are left on SIP? Like 5 people, talking to themselves?
Sandy, Happy Happy Birthday!
Hey SW!
Wendy sure likes to use Rhys, doesn't she.
You know Bella...a small cohesive group...blah blah blah.
I didn't hear the part where it was a small cohesive group....with a shit-ton of secret rules.
Bella I will DITTO what you had to say about everything. Even though I couldnt quite understand they why behind things she was doing with Tee and Kristin I was OK with it simply because I figured that there had to be more behind the scenes then we knew. And then things started getting more and more out of control. I also do feel that Wendy uses Rhys as well and honestly I could careless how much her husband makes because I do believe that they live a simple life and she has gone through a lot with Lia and yet still managed to do what needs to be done without pimping her child.
The rules are made up when the current rules no longer work. That way Wendy can always justify what she's doing.
It's the people left that continue to support it though that make me wonder.
Wendy has no one to blame but herself for imploding SIP. Bottom line.
Definitely Bella!
in defense of SIP, the privacy is nice, esp when there was all the mud slinging by GM in the beginning.
Absolutely Jill I totally agree with that. I think that is what keeps some there like they are because once you have been so publicly attacked it makes it hard to come out kwim?
I think that SIP would still be strong like it was before the "rules" started coming in and taking over.
Jill, I agree the privacy *was nice. GM has faded out a bit, and unless someone wants to rattle her cage, I think she is going to stay away. I felt like I couldn't say what I wanted to at the end before I left, so I guess for me free speech trumps privacy.
Yes the rules started to make it uncomfortable to be there. I was actually afraid to visit Daisy much before I left SIP because I was afraid that I would see my words used against me...like I had seen with others.
I cant speak for anyone else but the privacy began to feel a lot more like a prison then protection.
Walking on eggshells so you don't rock the boat and offend someone by simply disagreeing or having a different opinion is not a safe place to be. It's like a cult...
Being monitored or stalked around the internet isn't safe.
I can see both sides to all of this.
I don't have a beef with nobody (said with my best toug girl voice).
"Jill ain't got no beef with nobody!"
I imagined Stevie Von Zandt in the Sopranos saying this just now.
I'm back! Yay! Christy, please, have you ever known me to wear duct tape? Of course not. It's probably why I got called a bitch. ;-)
I think you should change your name to Bitch Pie.
Yay Lisa :)
The Bitch is back!
Head Bitch that is :)
Off to change my Stayfree pad, Bella.
A Bitch Pie
White Chocolate Starfish Bitch Pie
Como estas, bitches?
DQ's next Blizzard flavor
Done. :-D
And it ate my last comment but Jill, the privacy of SIP was nothing but an illusion. There was no real privacy there but from total strangers. Shit talked about people not on SIP? It didn't stay there. Gossip? Didn't stay there. I'd far rather things be said out in the open where those they are said about can defend themselves.
Hiya BD! I have a question for you:
Do you think Soul Coughing would have succeeded without Mike Doughty?
We had a big music fight last night, ending with me yelling "You will not blaspheme the name of Mike Doughty in this house!!"
The neighbors must love us.
"DQ's next Blizzard flavor"
I hope it doesn't have chunks in it.
Bella:
Mike Doughty tours without Soul Coughing, but as far as I know, Soul Coughing does not exist without Mike Doughty.
That should be J's answer right there.
I side with you, friend.
Should I change my name on here?
I originally went by Belladonna to A.) hide my identity and B.) not confuse everyone with epic numbers of Jennifers. However, I think people get too confused with Bella and I going by such similar names. I don't know.
Would it be easier if I changed?
Thank you. I knew you would have a correct, succinct way of conveying that.
I am totally at my wits end regarding Chris' web site. I am not sure if it was hacked/attacked somehow. It went down almost to the minute that I got a couple of nasty emails and comments about Chris' gay-e-try. Like he said, we've got no room for bigots in our lives so we didn't really let it bother us. But now I am wondering.......could someone have compromised the site somehow?? I left a ticket at the 110mb support bay, but no response even tho they say it only takes a "short time".
Does ANYONE know a good (free) website host? That doesn't bombard people with pop ups and junk? I was so pleased to find 110mb.com because they only have the tiny text banner at the bottom, but now I'm wondering if I "got what I paid for".......
If not a freebie, then one that's less than $5 a month, give or take? I NEED to get the site back up. We are thrilled with the 3 weeks of paid therapy but he needs tons more help. We're putting groceries on a (disgustingly high interest) credit card and picking and choosing what gets paid on time or at ALL regarding other bills. I'm not "expecting" anything beyond what amazing, amazing generosity we have already been blessed with. But if someone DID want to help, I would hate for Chris to not have that help because the stupid web host was screwed up.
Chris says he would like to give a big queerple SMACK (oh NO.......he just said "make sure you clarify I mean the KISS kind of smack, not the MckDaddy kind of smack. Lord he's awful sometimes!) to KRISTIN. She has not only donated to Chris, but done so TWICE. And she is a single mom (a totally kick ass one, from what I gather) looking for a job.
The sacrifice taken on willingly for my brother is just so humbling and gratifying. I KNOW him.......I know he never turned down the chance to help a stranger, know that when it floods in Houston he would always take his truck and do free tows until everyone got home safe, that he went to the local grocery store parking lot when PawMatch did adoption days in the 100 degree heat and bought bottled water for the volunteers and milk bones for the puppies....... *I know he always went to ebay to buy me a paperweight when I was sick or had a bad day (I collect them) and how he totally delighted in taking me and mom to a new found out of the way gem of a deli or diner he'd found.
So to ME of course he is worth any amount of help I can provide and more. But for other people, people who don't know him, to give of themselves so willingly and sacrificially....... well I know I sound like a broken record but I can't even TELL you guys how it touches me.
I'm sure some people are tired of my tear soaked sap. I just really want to make sure everyone knows how important you have quickly become to us. I know some cynics would say "duh, they gave you money". But we've had five times as many people who donated to rehab, simply write to us to express support or the willingness to pray, or given us ideas and feedback on his recovery. AP's daily remembering of Chris is just mind blowing to us, as is MWOP's quickness in offering to not only pass on the link (when MckMama ignored us) but to make a button and post it where everyone can see it.
The fact that said button is directing people to a DUD website right now is extremely frustrating! ANY IDEAS on how to fix this are welcome! I of course went to google but it's so overwhelming.......there is a million website hosts but the ones I can afford hosting fees for seem to make you buy your own domain. I need a free or very cheap host that will support an extremely simple website. I would like to host photos and videos on it but even that is not mandatory.......what I need to do is keep Chris' story and options to help out there. Especially now that we FINALLY worked it out with the rehab center so that people can donate directly to Chris' account there.
As always, I am reading Chris the replies here. Re "BITCH PIE", he says he has a recipe:
Buy the same ingredients as a normal pie, but use your shopping cart to knock over anyone better looking/skinnier than you while doing so.
I swear, he should do stand up.
Oh and just an observation of ours.......
We would ask who/what SIP is and who "Wendy" is.......but holy crap it sounds like we're better off not knowing.
I will say this, based on my time of being on the "dark side" after getting what MckMama was really about.......I have noticed that it seems like a lot of people pick on Rhys. Rhys is Tumbleweed Girl, right?? She seems to just shake it off and move on when people pick on her.......where as I would be slinging the fourletters right and left if confronted with some of the things people say about her. She seems like a hard working, really kind woman who is totally devoted to her children and appreciates every breath in this life due to her daughter's fragility. So WHAT FREAKIN' GIVES??
Bella, I think your name is fine without the numbers. Or with them. Just make sure the Belladonna part stays or the natives will get restless.
Elisabeth, why not Blogger? It's free, easy and and you can link it to your avatar for when you post, too.
"Buy the same ingredients as a normal pie, but use your shopping cart to knock over anyone better looking/skinnier than you while doing so."
Trouble is, everyone is better looking and skinnier than I am as long as I'm not at Walmart. :-/ I'm still chuckling over a MckDaddy kind of slap...
Elisabet- could you use a blogger site? I can't remember if there was a reason why you could not.
BP, can I do like a regular website on blogger? I thought you could only do an actual "blog". I will check out blogger.com now (thank you)
See Bitch Pie and I had the same idea. She however seems to be able to spell 'Elisabeth' correctly!
Tell Chris that hitting someone in the back of the ankle with your cart is *way more satisfying than tipping their cart.
Erin, for once, I'm not the one with a typo. I'm proud. ;-)
Elisabeth, it won't be like a regular website but you can use it as an informational page about Chris as well as a place to give his fans (!!) updates.
Hey, why not a CaringBridge page for Chris?
CK - do you think mirror mirror and take a pill are the same person? I wish people wouldn't talk to much to them.
BP, that is a good idea! I'm going to see about trying to condense (ha) the whole site into one informative post. I really like the photo page, I feel like it helps people "know" him and his daily life/recovery.......but maybe there will be a way for blogger to allow at least some photos in "album" format. Or I can use something like Flicker and link to it. (I think?)
Erin L, he says......I thought we agreed neither of us would EVER speak of that again!
BP that is a GREAT idea!! And don't they "validate" thru hospitals and doctors so people could know we're being honest about his condition? That would be so great! Abandoning blogger.com and going to CB right now!!
Hey ladies - back from running errands!
As far as me being banned from SIP - I think most of you know that I was pretty damn upset about it b/c I do not think I did anything wrong.
but whatever...it's over.
LM keeps telling me "sing with me" and I wait for a song, then he gets mad and says "SING WITH ME!"..lol...I had to tell him I would sing with him if he told me what song to sing.
Margaret - yes I do - and they claim to know a lot about Jennifer IRL.
I stopped myself from responding.
::swatting those little funny looking creaturs back under the bridge::
He's so funny Kristin!
I don't know, Kristin. You talked behind backs and you read email forwarded to you. I think you're probably the only person on SIP who ever did that and as such, you deserved your banning.
LM is almost at a good age to teach him dirty tongue twisters. If you need any, let me know.
Yes he is - while running errands today - he made lotsa friends. Then he had a total melt down in the car. Fun times!
Kristin, can I ask something? It's totally not my business, I admit, but when he has these melt-downs, do you punish him? Or do you just get him home? I ask only because I don't recall you speaking of repercussions for the behavior and was...well...nosy.
We were in the car - at one point I did stop (we were in the parking lot) and reprimand him and tell him he was going to his room as soon as we got home. I ended up having to ignore him because it kept escalating. when he finally calmed down, we talked about it. I *tried to make him understand why I got mad at him (he kept hitting my window with the kite string - large plastic thing after many times of telling him to stop and I proceeded to take it away) - he understood and told me he wouldn't do it again.
Normally if we are at home - he gets a time out.
There are times when he has gotten a spanking.
Caringbridge is a great idea. Hope you can get that worked out, Elisabeth. And I think you can put a little blurb on the first page where the journal part shows up with the paypal info, too. My payday's next week... won't be much but I sure will donate again.
I can't even count how many times I've had to stop myself from responding to Mirror, etc. over there. I probably should just stay away from there for a little bit, LOL. I just don't have a lot of tolerance for stupid shit and bigotry like he/she (?) was sputtering out the other day.
Love the new Bitch Pie name.
Oh well, break's over. Wish I was hangin' here with y'all with a glass of wine in hand tonight. =(
Morning Ladies and Gent :-D
I have been choking on my coffee for an hour trying to catch up from last night. What a hoot!
Bitch Pie - I LOVE it!!! One of these days I will get the GUTS to change mine to Lady Balls, as CK? suggested!
SW - High Five! Your landscaping plants will be wonderful. My lilacs are about to bloom and I adore them. You will get so much joy from your plantings!
SANDY ---- HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kristin - Hope your job fair went well.
CK - Thanks for cleaning and vacuuming around here - I love seeing our new and old Daisys!
Shannon - I gave a shout out to you as we drove sort of close to you - went to Spirit Mountain! We don't gamble, but we were guests and heard a really good singer.
Chris - That is SO awesome about your Left Toe! That made my day and I am geared up to go into work and be positive!
Gotta hit the shower and go to work! Have a great evening everyone!
Kaytie - have a great day at work!
Oh geeze :::I should've had a V8 and not all this darn coffee:::
ROBIN - I am so sorry about you getting banned. Sounds like you have been there a long time and have friends there that you will miss. Sounds like it has gotten out of hand and I am sure glad you are here.
BP, I did it!! I joined caring bridge! Wah-hoo I am glad you said that. They have journal, photo album, guestbook.......all the stuff I wanted! They even have a design template that is COFFEE theme, which he said right away was perfect.
I am going to work on it tonight and try to have it ready for linking by the morning.
They don't have Reliant listed on the list of sponsor facilities, but we just got a letter today from MAP saying he is going to get one extra session a week at SMC (hopefully at a semi reasonable co pay) and that is where he spent all his time in the ICU so I listed Seton, since they ARE on the list of sponsored facilities. I don't know if displaying their info will benefit them in any way, but I hope so. They might have charged hundreds of thousands for the ICU stay, but at least they LET him stay.......the SW told our family that most people with no insurance at all get "turfed" to Brackenridge (the charity hospital, known for sub par care, but improving slightly) so he was lucky to stay for the whole time at SMC. I guess I will put the info about Reliant in the "my story" part, so it will be seen and not buried in the "journal" part.
The only bummer I see is no video option but I will find a place to put those and link to them, hopefully.
Thank you so much for helping with this=)
Elisabeth - how long was Chris in IP rehab after he got out of ICU?
Kristin, thanks for answering...it sounds like you're doing what you can to keep him settled down.
Elisabeth, that's great about CB working so well for y'all! As for videos, I bet you could embed a youtube video on it. If not, you could always put them on youtube and link there. Ahh, I'm just so glad this is going to work!
*shoots ol' Lady Balls with a tranquilizer gun*
I forgot to say hi to Molly. Whatcha doing tonight that you can't hang out here? Anything exciting?
Evening ladies and Chris!
Got back from dinner and just finished cake. We had a really nice time. Everyone was well behaved.
B was hell bent on putting 42, I mean 24 candles in the cake. I stopped him at 4. LOL
*shoots ol' Lady Balls with a tranquilizer gun*
Shoots self with Narcan gun...gotta be on hyper drive tonight because I am Rapid Response nurse
:-p
Sandy - Glad you had a wonderful 4th Bday!
uggghhhhhhhh...........I bought a humming bird feeder and got it to mount onto the window. Came inside to hear a thunk, went outside, the damn thing is all over the ground - red, sticky mess...fun!
"Shoots self with Narcan gun..."
Well, *there's a comment you don't see every day!
Oh no Kristin. You can do with the red food that you buy. Boil 1 cup of water with 1/4 cup of regular sugar. It's still a sticky mess but without the red dye.
with/without.
thanks Sandy - the dog licked up most of it...lol and I just took some water and rinsed off the side of the house.
Bitch Pie ....I am feeling really ZZZZZZZ
I don't think it was loaded.
Y'all have a great night my Dear Daisies!
Sandy - I'm SO glad you had a good day :)
oh lord help me!
be back in a bit
Hello...is blogger going to play nice tonight?
Amy - you're everywhere tonight!
Just like amex...everywhere you want to be ;)
Kids are in bed, I am catching up on my reading, hubby is in the garage doing maintenance on the cars. Nice and quiet so I can multitask online.
Uh oh, Kristin. That did not sound good.
for those of you who care to see what I wore today:
http://tandtintexas.blogspot.com/2010/04/outfit.html
just because!
EL - just a meltdown. I think he is overly tired because he is not listening - he only had an hour nap. We just got done with the shower and he will be in bed shortly.
and I just have to say - I am really glad to see Jae, RF, Amy and others here.
:)
Cute! I like the outfit. :)
Thanks Amy!
Love the outfit, Kristin. Cute shoes, too! Job fair sounds like it was pretty productive.
AP- working tonight but it's my Fri. Am off on Sundays and Mondays, so that's good.
Just got home from having barbecue. I have decided I don't like barbecue. I was vegetarian for a long time, then went to fish as well, then added in chicken and red meat. I still can't eat pork, for some reason. I still just eat mostly chicken, but I will have a steak if it's a really good cut.
Very cute outfit, Kristin. The shoes are awesome!
Um, did anyone read that the troll over on MWOP is from San Leandro?
San Leandro=GM.
What a old, psycho bitch.
You beat me to it Bella...I just read that. OMG what a *loser.
saw that too Bella and Christy - wow! Just wow!
*I have to preface that with "in my opinion", so she doesn't forward my written word.
So, in my opinion, GM is a crazy, crusty, ill-bred bitch. What a pathetic freak, in my humble, ill-bred, Irish opinion.
*forward my written word...to her super-lawyer, that is. Ha.
classic Bella!
So isn't the *troll over there the one who brought up libel? I can't remember but I remember reading that and immediately thought of GM.
Well ladies, I'm calling it an early night, my dogs are barking and LM woke up quite a few times last night so I'm beat.
Have a good night!
You too, Kristin.
Night kristin. Loved the outfit.
My girls got the free trip to bed pass early. They were all sorts of crazy.
Bella- was it BBQ like sloppy Joes, or like shredded BBQ?
Just caught up.
Kristin- love the outfit! Sorry about the LM meltdowns. I feel your pain.
I think that we may have fully recovered from the Great Nail Polish Incident of 2010.
Someone please take pity on me and tell me who "San Leandro"/GM is?? It is purely for Being A Nosy Little Shit reasons but everyone is all OMG OMG it's her it's her I know who it isssssss she's nutso.......and so on. Help a nosy bitch out!
(OR not.......I totally get if it's one of those let's not even go there/get into it type things)
I think it was.......Margaret who asked how long Chris was IP after ICU? He went for just 4 days the first time, then back to ICU.......then went for ONE day (poor guy was in emotional shreds after having to go back to the hospital after only one day of relative "freedom") and fell so he got sent back. Then he had a few times of bouncing between IP and hospital because of a dirty PICC plastic part that gave him a blood clot and made his arm swell up like you would not believe. So all that "back and forth" totally kept him from having any real progress, but then he had 3 weeks of straight-thru IP at Reliant.
I had never really known of anyone in the ICU for so long. I guess I never thought about it, but I just figured it's where people go when they are in a car accident or have a heart attack or something major like that.......and they either spend a few days there and get better enough to move to a regular room.....or unfortunately do not get better and pass away.
I never knew it could be a hellish limbo that lasts for weeks and months. When we were up there on Christmas eve and Christmas day, I noticed a lot more visitors than normal and was asking one of the nurses about it. She said there were a few patients who had been there months and months and months.......and would have a setback as soon as they got close to being stable enough to move to assisted living or long term care. And when we went to Seton for one of his blood tests (he has to have his PTINR checked often due to being on a M/W/F 5mg, Tu/Th/Sat/Sun 6mg coumadin schedule) in March after we moved him back to his apartment, we saw a man there whose wife was STILL in ICU.......and he had already been there for 5 weeks when Chris was first admitted in November.
It's just mind boggling. I know you were just asking a simple question and I'm sorry I once again went off on to a tangent, but I know y'all have been discussing ICU and the rules and regs surrounding it, so I wanted to note some of my thoughts about it.
Seton Medical Center has a "policy" of 2 visitors at a time. I cannot adequately describe how we crapped on that rule every. single. day.
They also have a rule that you can't hang out in the hallways outside a patient's ICU room.......and because of how it's set up (an enclosed, horse shoe shaped unit with patient rooms that each have sliding glass doors instead of a "regular" door) you either are in the room or WAY way out in the ICU waiting room, which is outside that enclosed unit.
So we just flagrently violated the rule. Not to be snotty or disrespectful. We were so grateful to them for the care they provided. But especially in the beginning where it was like.......we HAD to be in there with him.....the 2 person rule was just not possible. And the time limit was something like 20 minutes!
We brought in a folding chair, which combined with the funky mauve chair they already had in there allowed us to each site for a little bit at a time. And they said the more time we spent with him, the better he did. He progressed so well after they told us to "say goodbye".......I think that is why they did not hassle us (too much) about ignoring those particular rules.
Taiya- at least it wasn't the Great Hair Cutting Incident of 2010!
That's true. It could have been much worse!
Hi Daisys!! and Chris.. somehow it doesn't seem right to call him a Daisy... I think I like him a whole lot more now that I know he loves coffee!! Finally caught up - and its early (for me)!! Tay is sleeping - staying all night tonight!
Hellish limbo = great description, unfortunately. :( My husband passed away (3 years ago) from injuries sustained in a car accident. We were only there (in neuro ICU) 5 days, and I really feel for families who are there for weeks and months on end, too. So, so thankful for the nurses we dealt with- truly angels on earth! I think all ICU and hospice nurses (or most anyway, I know there are exceptions to every rule) have a really special gift to be able to do what they do. They had strict rules at our hospital, too but would bend the rules as much as they could depending on the situation.
Wish I had the means to help families in situations like that (ICU) all the time, you know? It made me really thankful for my parents who were there with us the whole time but not everybody has that.
I don't know who the troll from San Leandro is but they sound like a piece of work. Ha!
BJ - nice to "meet" you - I haven't been on at the same time that you have been... so Hi! And I'm really sorry about your husband... ICU's are really really scarey places... have had loved ones in there twice, and that was more than enough for me - the amount of technology is just scarey - you know that the person that is in there needs to be there, and that just scared the crappies outta me!!
Hey Karen! Thanks- nice to meet you too. It is scary... I guess more so when you haven't ever been through anything like that.
Elisabeth, that's one reason I guess I just love Chris' story. And I love what all you shared here last night (I think) about changing your relationship with him after everything y'all have gone through. As hard as this whole situation has been for me, it's also amazing the things that have happened afterwards and the lessons I've learned/am still learning.
Molly, I'm so very sorry about your husband. :-(
Kristin, I loved the outfit and am hoping your shoes won't fit Bella so I can have them.
Who is shocked about the San Leandro thing?
Yeah, I thought not.
Evening! Kids parties are ridiculous and this was family and cake and ice cream.
I agree with loving the sharing Elisabeth, and I love that you are a supportive sister to your brother. When my family first found out I am gay, they all practically disowned me.. its been years and they are all finally coming around, but you sound as if you accept Chris 100% no questions asked... I think that is wonderful and you should be proud!
And BS I agree - sometimes you learn and grow so much from a tradgedy - it made me realize many times that although I don't want to have to go through such things, my life would probably be where it is today if I had not had to suffer through some of the things I've been through.. That which doesn't kill us makes us stronger, I believe that...
OMG NOT BS - BJ!! haha bs=bullshit - which you are NOT - I just have a hard time thinking of a BJ for some reason.... ewww!! hahahaha
Yep, Shannon gave me hell about the BJ thing the other day. I'm gonna end up changing my name before it's all said and done, LOL. So funny.
Bookjunkie.......oh I am so sorry about your husband. I am so thankful you were shown kindness and compassion during what must certainly have been the worst experience of your life.
I also hope I can help ICU families one day. People gave us extra food and when we just HAD to catch an hour of sleep, would be nice enough to say "here, you take the recliner" even if they were obviously comfy and settled. (there is mostly regular chairs but a handful of lazy boy type recliners with wheels on the bottom so you can roll them to the area of the ICUWR where the lights are dimmer)
So many people here have had such tragic loss. I don't want to give the whole "God doesn't give us more than we can handle" bull. I believe God weeps with us, and it totally blows that so many people here have had to live through the worst kind of heartbreak possible. My prayers are sincerely with you who have been through these massive heartbreaks.
We could call you Bookie... I can deal with that better than BJ!!
Karen...lol!
Y'all are wonderful, you know that? Most all of you, anyway. And no, I'm not drunk. I was just thinking about easy-going this place is compared to many and wanted to tell you all I'm glad to know you.
Thanks y'all! Definitely agree on the what doesn't kill us makes us stronger.
But Bitch Pie, you might need to change your name back soon. Every time I see it I end up almost spitting my drink out laughing.
I'm not totally caught up, but where the hell did bitch pie come from?
Yeah, Erin, if I'm going to run around doling out sentimental shit, I'm not a very good bitch, am I?
Mulie, we just found out Wendy from SIP referred to me as "that bitch, AP"...Bella and others suggested I cooperate with a name change. ;-)
After the night I've had "elsewhere" i'm very very grateful for this place too AP!
And by the way - the Walgreens clinic was $75... which is alot! but probably cheaper than a Dr. and there was no appointment needed and she was in and out with prescriptions in hand in less than half an hour. And they recommended she fill the antibiotic at Giant Eagle, which fills antibiotics for free. Walmart did not have any of the other meds on their $4 list, so all together it was $70 for the meds... so that was almost $150 for all that sickness! I hope if I catch it there is something leftover for me to share!!
LOL I read what Erin wrote at Butch Pie - rather than But Bitch Pie.... funny but that doesn't fit you in my opinion!! hahaha!!
AP/Lisa/BP is disappointedly NOT butch.
LOL @ Mulie!!
Karen, that's more than I'd have expected, too. I know the Walmart clinic here is $49 for tons of things. I'm sure it was still cheaper than a doctor, though.
And me? Butch Pie. A-hem.
*fails arms around*
I'm not sure what to say.
No, I'm not, Mulie, but I sure love me some of that. :-D
No - you do not seem like a butch pie to me AP - stick with bitch pie - i like that much better!
I believe there is still time for you to fulfill my lesbian stereotype. Your choices for hair include a. mullet or b. crew cut
There are a limited amount of wardrobe choices and they all include men's wear
Under garment choices include a. sports bra b. ace bandage
AND
a. full white cotton briefs b. boxers c. men's briefs
Karen.......it has never occurred to me NOT to accept Chris for what and who he is. I would love to claim some kind of special grace or talent as a person, but the reality is, I was blessed to have parents who never batted an eye in a negative manner when Chris announced he was gay. (age 18)
Like my mom says.......his favorite song as a child was the theme to "the young and the restless" and he used to cry when his socks didn't match his shirt. It's not like they could have been THAT shocked! =)
In all seriousness tho, my mom especially always walked the walk when it came to being open minded, tolerant, and accepting of others. I wasn't present for the actual conversation between Chris and mom but he says within minutes she said "all I have ever wanted is for my child to be happy and that is all I want now".
My dad has always been super supportive of Chris, but not in the over the top way my mom is, which makes Chris feel especially accepted, I think. Both sides of extended family SAY they are "fine" with it, but nobody ever ever ever asks Chris about a relationship he might be in and if one of US mentions it, an uncomfortable silence usually follows. So I think my mom tries to make up for the ignorance of others. She has actually gone up to one of Chris' friends moms and said isn't having a gay son the BEST?! now that my daughter is married and so PROBABLY not a lesbian, I'll never have to worry about some bitchy daughter in law!
I feel terrible that your family did not accept you. That should just never happen. And I can't imagine rationalizing that behavior toward anyone but your own child or relative?? Totally unacceptable AND just insane.
Mulie, I'm cracking up here...seriously. You're describing my dream woman, not me, not in any lifetime! Only there will be bonus points if she's a cop. I know, I know. I seriously fly under the gaydar and no one ever realizes until I tell them.
I'm a stealth lesbian.
I agree Elisabeth that your parents raised you to be accepting, and that means alot. My children accepted me right away - and that was all that mattered. In time my mom, sister and brother have all come around, but it took a long time! I do understand ignorance if someone is not exposed before and needing to be educated, but I cannot understand or tolerate cruelty or hate....
I'm the same way AP - nobody would know - and I'm not attracted to a girly girl at all... and what is it about a femal cop? the uniform? :) LOL
"You're describing my dream woman, not me, not in any lifetime!"
I thought of that, GayP, but I was on a roll and wanted to finish my Lesbian Choose Your Own Adventure.
lmao mulie you are on a role.. remind me - are you and GayP friends in real life??
I've seen some pretty butch female fire fighters too. You should see all the dikes in the Air Force! They are the kind of chicks straight woman would go gay for and guys want to turn straight (or at least be allowed to watch them with the straight chick).
No, Karen, not IRL friends with GayP, which is probably a good thing since she would probably bitch slap me for my naughty behavior.
Elisabeth, I am so very glad Chris has been accepted by his family as he is. Mine? Does not. My mom is cool with me as long as we never discuss it or acknowledge it. She's one reason, albeit a minor one, I won't be in another relationship. It's too hard on her. My dad knew but it was never discussed. He just knew. And mostly probably understood in a very personal way. Our whole family on his side is packed full of gay people - we're living proof is can be genetic - but I'm the only one who has owned it outright. I have a cousin who has been with a woman for over 20 years, they've adopted kids even, but she's never actually *said she's gay. As long as it isn't said, the family can ignore it. *eyeroll* I'm papered and pedigreed now, I even have court papers to prove it. I'm the pink sheep of my family. The rest of them live alone and content themselves with playing piano or softball.
There are a few gays in my family and while they have been accepted by the extended family, they have finally been accepted by their immediate family or have been blacked balled. I think the mindset for not accepting a person is mind boggling.
I've seen some pretty butch female fire fighters too. You should see all the dikes in the Air Force! They are the kind of chicks straight woman would go gay for
Um, yea, those are the kind I like too.. as long as you can still tell they are girls!! I"ve seen some that go so far overboard that you can't really tell if they are male or female. Now when guys do that... as AP has shared the pic of Jake with us.. I think that is attractive too!! Like Adam Lambert... He's awesome....
Oh, Karen, you've got the whole cop thing going on, too? Good! There's one around here, a fair amount older than me but man, she slays me and I could not tel you why. Long weird story averted, but I wound up in the back bed of a semi with her one time and nearly fainted - first time in my life I ever literally went weak in my knees and understood what that really meant. Lol, she testified for me to help me keep custody of Jake.
You have court papers that prove you're gay, AP? How does that work?
I can appreciate what Adam Lambert is trying to do, but I don't care for the flamer type. It's just over the top and annoying. IMO.
Demi Moore in GI Jane.. she's hot but in that movie... daaaaamn!
I think he's "beautiful" and gender-less if that makes sense...
Demi Moore in GI Jane.. she's hot but in that movie... daaaaamn!
You either want to be her or be with her! Maybe both! That was a great movie.
Hi Ladies :)
Let me recommend you a movie that you should not watch: The Road. I'm going to have nightmares tonight. Post-apocalyptic stuff scares the bejeezus out of me, because it could happen.
I have a question for my favorite lesbians: Why are some lesbians butch? I always thought that women who love women would look...womanly. Just innocently wondering.
Both Mulie!! LOL
And I know I've discussed her with AP before and she doesn't like her, but Melissa Etheridge... she is feminine enough to be a woman, but butch enough to be very attractive, and without hair after her chemo - she looked beautiful!
I get it with AL, but I think he came on a little too strong. I didn't watch AI, so I knew who he was, but the first performance I saw him do was over the top and I didn't feel like he "earned" the right to be that in-your-face.
Karen, I love ME waaaay more with no hair! Her normal hair is fugly.
I remember my teacher in HS talking about how he went to an Indigo Girls concert with his girlfriend and I piped in and declared my love for them as well and I was sorry to have missed the concert. It took me years to figure out why he gave me such a weird look!
"I"ve seen some that go so far overboard that you can't really tell if they are male or female. Now when guys do that... as AP has shared the pic of Jake with us.. I think that is attractive too!! Like Adam Lambert... He's awesome...."
Ate my post...grrrrr.
Jake is very androgynous...he can easily pass as a girl or, like right now with 4 days worth of beard growth (never seen that before!), he is obviously male but a very delicate, small, artsy-looking male. We were just talking tonight about how if he really wanted a drastic but fun change, dark hair again and a goatee would look good. Both very serious, very long-term relationships I've been in with woman have been with woman far more androgynous than butch. Think "Pat" but more attractive. I think that's why I can find some men attractive, even though I'd not want to sleep with them.
Oh, and who is R2?
She does have fugly normal hair Mulie!
Bella I think that some women who aren't gay are also somewhat butch... not liking to be super feminine... like football, bugs, dress in jeans and t's (Hi Kristin!!) and some of those just happen to be lesbian, but the ones that are ultra butch, looking like a guy, I don't get why...
My cousin's partner is a super-butch. I think for her, she identifies more with being male rather than female. She is the absolute sweetest person in the world! They just had a baby (sperm donor) and my cousin goes by "mommy" and her partner goes by "poppy".
Thanks, Karen :) The ultra butch women confuse me a little...I would think, if I were gay, I would go for the girl with the hips, the breasts, the hair...all the good stuff us girls have.
"I think he's "beautiful" and gender-less if that makes sense..."
See, I think he looks like a drag queen. To me, he's obviously male and just all made up.
"You have court papers that prove you're gay, AP? How does that work?"
Tom (my ex-husband) made a HUGE issue of it in our divorce and so the records of our 4 years of court proceedings to get divorced (yes, 4 years) are littered with references to it, all of which I admitted to, time and time again. In our final divorce decree, it states that I'm a lesbian. In our final custody and visitation papers, it states the same, thanks to his insistence. So, I've got legal papers to prove it because really, who would own that in a divorce and custody battle if it weren't true? Those papers are filed with the court. I figure it's legally known that I'm a lesbian now.
Who is Pat??
Pat is a genderless character formally on SNL.
Thanks, Karen :) The ultra butch women confuse me a little...I would think, if I were gay, I would go for the girl with the hips, the breasts, the hair...all the good stuff us girls have
Bella at a bar we used to hang out at in NY there were lots of super feminine girls too - and they were all attracted to the super butch girls.... I wondered why about them too - Butch is good (attractive to me I mean...) - super butch... just confusing to me!
"I have a question for my favorite lesbians: Why are some lesbians butch? I always thought that women who love women would look...womanly. Just innocently wondering."
My own belief? There are no true, 100% males or females. We all fall into the middle somewhere, some far more to one side than the other and, independent of that, we're all attracted to people who somewhere in-between those two points, some more extreme than others.
F----------|----------M
I am far more to the female side personally but my attraction level leans a couple of notches to the left of middle.
Maybe that helps?
GayP, Hubby and I just had that same conversation about the sexuality spectrum.
"Oh, and who is R2?"
On SIP, she's Wendy's butt plu...uh, strongest supporter. I do not like her and she does not like me, I'm quite sure. I did try to like her, though, if it matters.
Was she on OHIH?
Heading to bed, friends!
BP.......20 years, and adopted kids, and refusing to acknowledge such a basic but integral part of herself!!?
That is.........wow I can't even think of what that is! What are they teaching the children they've no doubt moved mountains to adopt and parent!
Chris knows he is lucky to not have dealt with TOO much outright bigotry in his life. He has friends who have been kicked out of their family homes and disowned or been ostrasized at their work place.......all kinds of awful things. I wish I could say I think things will change soon. But given that our country still has a majority of states who believe it's better for a child to be in abusive situations and sub par foster care rather than a healthy, stable home with two committed gay parents.......I don't have a lot of faith. I wish I did, but I don't.
BP you are so considerate and the best combination of gentle and tough as nails......and you have a fabulous wit, one of the best qualities a person can have. I just can't believe your family would want to ignore or suppress any part of "you".
I have been working on trying to package all of the info and updates about Chris into the CB page. I think I am coming up on a major crash very quickly. His schedule is kicking my butt. He does the posturing so bad at night, to where he can't sleep at all. So he shakes and trembles like crazy until he just crashes from exhaustion at 4 or 5 am.
I think tonight I might have to give in and take a snooze before the usual middle of the night bedtime. Earlier I tried to catch a catnap but as soon as I laid down my mom called to see how we were (it was storming bad here today) and then we started talking and yakity yak yak I never got my nap.
Daisies are the best. We will "see" you all in the morning! =)
Mulie, I strongly believe there *is a spectrum. No absolutes. No true genders.
As for why women are attracted to super-butch women, I can tell you. They get that toughness and strength of a male, a "dominant" partner but with the parts and real sweetness and vulnerability only a woman can have. They get someone who will take care of them and cherish them, but who, in private, can let their guard down and cry, talk about feelings and understand how you feel about things. It's really the best of all worlds if you aren't all about the parts.
"Was she on OHIH?"
Yes, she's Won. Or Broken Won, I think, in some places.
"BP.......20 years, and adopted kids, and refusing to acknowledge such a basic but integral part of herself!!?
That is.........wow I can't even think of what that is! What are they teaching the children they've no doubt moved mountains to adopt and parent!"
Elisabeth, they are accepted by her father and his wife and her siblings. And me. They are very open and live so, but have a "family" of close friends now, mostly. Don't get me wrong, she could come to any family gathering with her wife and kids and be welcomed as long as they don't touch and can be called "friends". Same with me...I'd be welcomed under the same circumstances. I'm just not comfortable with that now.
As for why women are attracted to super-butch women, I can tell you. They get that toughness and strength of a male, a "dominant" partner but with the parts and real sweetness and vulnerability only a woman can have. They get someone who will take care of them and cherish them, but who, in private, can let their guard down and cry, talk about feelings and understand how you feel about things. It's really the best of all worlds if you aren't all about the parts.
I get that AP - but the extreme male looking female is what I don't understand being attracted to - and although I don't know many women that look and act that way *well, the ones I do know - aren't very feminine minded as far as feelings, listening, etc. They related to men and act as a man... at least the ones I know. To each their own though - I would never put anyone down as to how they relate.. we were very friendly with a man to woman trans-sexual for a while... she was very interesting to talk to!!! I agree with Elisabeth also as far as you seeming very strong willed and outspoken and don't understand why you allow your family to "force" you to keep quiet about your life... and to choose not to be in another relationship to make it easier on them... Patti has to do the same with her family - and I just could not do that... I am what I am... and thats all that I am... I'm Pop... oh never mind!!
I got nothin' to add to this conversation but am loving it. And learning so much. That's what I love about it here... I can LMAO one second and then y'all turn around and make me think about stuff that just never has occurred to me to even think about. ;) The spectrum thing totally makes sense.
I love it here too bookie!!
and with all that love, I'm off to bed... Tay will be up earlier than usual in the morning cause I put him to bed early - cause he was in a rotten mood! He will be 18 months old on the 21st and I love him to death but boy does he have his mommy's attitude sometimes!! LOL
Night all!
BJ (I've given up on Molly) that's one of the good things here- we're all over the damn place and nothing is sacred.
"nd although I don't know many women that look and act that way *well, the ones I do know - aren't very feminine minded as far as feelings, listening, etc. They related to men and act as a man... at least the ones I know."
And alone with a woman they trust? Will be the sweetest, most emotional and "needy" of love of the lot of us all, male or female. That's why some women are attracted to them, those extremes of strength and vulnerability.
"we were very friendly with a man to woman trans-sexual for a while... she was very interesting to talk to!!!"
I'm going to own one of my prejudices here - I don't get this, I don't like it and it makes me uncomfortable. I file it away in my "God Doesn't Make Mistakes" file along with fertility treatments and other things.
"I agree with Elisabeth also as far as you seeming very strong willed and outspoken and don't understand why you allow your family to "force" you to keep quiet about your life..."
Oh, no, they don't force me. I chose it. Because I love my family beyond all reason, especially my mom, I chose them over outsiders and my own desires. I know what her comfort level is, I know why it is and I kn ow she's too old to change now...and she is far, far more important than anything or anyone else, except Jake. She's the one I do this for, in the end. And I'll never have a regret about it, I'm sure. Sadness, maybe, wistfulness...but no regrets. She gave me life. The least I can do is give her peace and comfort.
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