Tuesday, March 16, 2010

The Shortround.

Your sweetness fix for today.  :-)

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Angie said...

LOL I knew it!!! :-D

Angie said...

Okay, I haven't been to Mck's site but I did read the most recent stream of consciousness post of hers on MWOP and I swear, it was like water in the dessert! I loved/hated it so much! Why the hell did I think I needed MckSobriety in the first place? She's fantastically maddening! Any thoughts before I dive back in, Sandy?

PJ said...

SW - be careful - the sheeple will make you crazy. Impressionable, silly, "I wanna hang with the popular girl" kind of women.

Anonymous said...

Oh dive away if you must. We all relapse. ::wink, wink::

Anonymous said...

I've had a bad hour and a 1/2 - I'm about to drink from mwop myself!

PJ said...

Margaret - what's up? Want to talk about it?

Angie said...

Who besides me is stoked about AI tonight?

PJ said...

Rolling Stones - mmmm.

Did they have their "makeovers" yet?

Angie said...

Rolling Stones night! Awesome!

PJ said...

I'm gonna be looking at Crystals' teeth to see if they're whiter, SW.

Angie said...

Can't tell, CK.

kristin said...

You okay Margaret?

I just played shark lake with LM and some wrestling. Good times.

Angie said...

What's shark lake, Kristin?

kristin said...

Where he pretends the carpet is a lake with sharks in it and proceeds to try to throw me in and then I throw him in and then save him.

He also jumped on my A LOT!

kristin said...

my = me

kristin said...

Big Mike looks a little awkward up there right now!

Angie said...

Agree, Kristin. He's not the best dancer around, is he?

kristin said...

Not diggin' Didi much either!

Angie said...

I liked her.

PJ said...

They did get their stylists and wardrobe budgets starting this week.

Anonymous said...

I'm ok - reading dumb stuff on mwop is part of my grief process :)

Shannon said...

Making a quick study break to share some good news


I just got a call from the clinic I called about finding a PCP for the assistance program I am applying for to get my female issues dealt with. I have an appointment Thursday morning. The doctor though she is a GP is actually well versed in the area of female problems and could be very very helpful with everything that is going on....possibly even in helping me with finding out about getting a hysterectomy.

Girls I know I dont have to tell you how stressed I have been between this stuff and school and I have my math final tomorrow and I have that appointment on Thursday. Maybe things are finally falling into place.

PJ said...

Margaret - you have a relative who is soon to leave this world?

Angie said...

Shannon, that is such good news!! You do have too much stress. Good luck on your final tomorrow!

Angie said...

I like Lacey Brown. Her father talking about her was very sweet. ::sniff::

PJ said...

I'm glad you are able to see somebody, Shannon. And so soon.

Wear long sleeves so you can tuck those crib sheets in them for the test.

Angie said...

CK, I'm shocked!

PJ said...

SW,
Not speaking for experience, mind you.

I just saw some crazy attempts at cheating when I proctored the CPA exam years ago.

PJ said...

I tend to like the AI contestants who are a bit raw - not perfect, not polished, but more real.

PJ said...

Just wondering if anybody but the Stones can do the Stones.

Anonymous said...

Ck - my friend is dying of cancer, it's my first hospice experience and she keeps rallying. She was always a chop buster - now she's just doing it silently :)

Angie said...

CK, like who do you like that you think is a bit raw?

Anonymous said...

I'm disappointed with mwop tonight, JM is depressed, yawn...

Angie said...

That's got to be tough Margaret.

PJ said...

Margaret - sad to hear that - is she okay with company? Do you get to sit with her?

Angie said...

This girl, Katie? Bugs me.

Shannon said...

Thanks ladies. It was funny cause they had appointments open tomorrow so I was gonna try it but then she told me that she had some Thursday morning too. I tell ya another load off!! I have to drive about 1 1/2 hours to take my final each way so it makes us happy :) I dont have to stress!!!!

Angie said...

Margaret, JM is under spiritual attack! What's not exciting about that?

PJ said...

SW, I haven't followed really well this year, but Crystal for sure. Past years - the Tina Turner like rocker chicks always did it for me.

Angie said...

Yay for less stress, Shannon!

Angie said...

Katie's doing Wild Horses. I'm skeered!

Angie said...

Crystal's my favorite, most definitely. Soiban is my second favorite. Didi Benami is my third favorite.

Angie said...

Okay, I liked the first 2/3ds of the song. Not bad.

kristin said...

this is the first time I really have watched the whole episode.

CK - I think the rolling stones are the only ones that can.

Margaret - I am sorry for your friend.

AP - I am sorry about the infection but I am glad it wasn't as stressful as you thought it might be.

PJ said...

Melinda Doolittle, David Cook - not perhaps the best technically, but the most honest emotionally.

Angie said...

I liked David Cook a lot. Melinda Doolittle's humbleness started to get on my nerves after a while.

PJ said...

I can see that SW. But man, could she sing.

Angie said...

Oh, she definitely could.

PJ said...

Except for the facial hair, Urban looks like he's about 13.

Anonymous said...

Are you guys watching Idol? I have it on in the background.

PJ said...

Kristin - from what I'm seeing, I agree about the Stones.

Anonymous said...

Look at his nails! They're longer than mine.

Angie said...

Hi Kasey! I was hoping you'd be back to chat. Yes, apparently CK, Kristin and I are all watching.

I don't love Tim Urban, but I did like this performance.

Anonymous said...

He's okay. I like him better (and resent him less) than Aaron Kelly. I'm going to DVR Ellen tomorrow - I guess she is having Alex Lambert on.

Anonymous said...

Oh, and hi!

Angie said...

I love Ellen. I need to start DVR'ing her every day.

Anonymous said...

I really like Ellen. I think she makes a big difference in the lives of a lot of people while being hilarious.

Siobhan is next! Does anyone else like her?

Anonymous said...

I spend time with her - I hope it's over for her soon. Dying sucks.

Angie said...

I love her Kasey.

Angie said...

Margaret, I don't have any personal experience in this area, but I can't help but think that we Americans could do a better job helping people have "good" deaths.

PJ said...

Great performance.

Anonymous said...

That girl looks like Fairuza Balk!

Anonymous said...

If my husband was here, he'd be rocking out on air guitar right now. I really like Siobhan, too. That was so crazy.

Margaret - so sorry about your friend. Hospice is such a strange, tough experience. You said it best - dying sucks.

Angie said...

She is fearless!

Anonymous said...

Yes, yes, yes, SW!

PJ said...

How old is she?

Shannon said...

HMMMMM I wonder if this Tim Urban feller is some sort of a former relative LOL


I find it funny that some are so into the Idol :)

kristin said...

She's cute - I like her!

Angie said...

The Idol rocks, Shannon. And don't you DARE say otherwise! :-)

Anonymous said...

snugglepuss?

Angie said...

Anybody planning on painting an accent wall, take note. Sugglepuss.

Angie said...

Lee Dewise (sp?) sounds nasally and mumbly to me.

Anonymous said...

Light purple. Noted.

Shannon said...

HAHAHAHA

SW I love the Idol during the audition process. I have never been able to get past that part though. I need a little more action in my reality TV :)

Shannon said...

Now I want you to recognize that this is also coming from someone who is watching the whole series of Bad Girls Club right now in preparation for the reunion show tonight.

Anonymous said...

Shannon - that's my fav time too, all those people who truly can't sing - it's a beautiful thing.

Angie said...

I'm the opposite, Shannon. I don't like the audition process. The judges are too mean and I feel sorry for the auditioners.

Anonymous said...

I usually like Top 12 better, but two of my favorites didn't make it.

Shannon said...

Margaret I am glad I am not alone. My best friend LOVES her some Idol. She used to be a closet watcher but now she is out in the open about it. But I also got her hooked into the model.

SW sometimes they are kinda harsh but sometimes those people need a slap with the reality stick.

Anonymous said...

I think some of them go on there just to be on TV - they are soooooooooo bad.

PJ said...

I'm with SW - I like it better when people who really have talent get to sing. Not people who are silly or odd or crazy.

Angie said...

Paige Miles did well! I haven't been a fan before tonight, but she was hot!

PJ said...

I have a student who auditioned - the first round judges skip over people who can sing, and pick those who are out there. So, it's not they're fault they end up on TV.

Angie said...

Uh oh. Clearasil kid's up next!

PJ said...

OMG, another 13 year old!

Angie said...

He's singing my song! Love the song, not the singer.

Anonymous said...

Good evening Ladies. Needing teacher advice. Teacher advised the class that if one student got in trouble they would have to take a test. My daughter has issues at school. My daughter was, of course, the one who gets in trouble. C already has self-negative talk about herself, does not fit in with peers, self-esteem issues. The school is aware of this and so are the many social worker, spec ed, IEP meeting folks. Is this okay to do in your opinion? (I hate this school, can you tell?)

Anonymous said...

Should add that the classmates are pissed at her.

Anonymous said...

I just don't like this kid. And he really is just a kid.

CK - I had a friend who auditioned here a few years ago. You're right. There are so many rounds and they do pick out people with the wow factor for TV. My friend made it to Simon/Paula/Randy and was devastated to be cut.

PJ said...

In my opinion - the fact that she has an IEP and has difficulty with peer relationships should keep her out of that equation.

PJ said...

He was singing to you, SW. I saw it in his eyes.

PJ said...

Sandy - in my school it would, at least.

T@iy@ said...

Hey Daisies! :)

Margaret- I am sorry about your friend. It sucks. I have been through that with my aunt, my SIL, and my "second" grandma.

Anonymous said...

Thanks CK...back to AI.

PJ said...

SW is a cougar, SW is a cougar!!

Angie said...

"He was singing to you, SW. I saw it in his eyes."

Ewwwww! That's disturbing, CK!

Anonymous said...

Sandy,
In a perfect world, a teacher would be well aware of student challenges and know that while some students might really learn from that tactic, others simply can't/won't benefit from it at all.
If your daughter's teacher has been informed, she should be ashamed of yourself. Because of the nature of schools today, it might be up to you to tell her how it is. You are her best advocate.
Sorry if that's too much - I work with students with learning differences and hate to hear of teachers/schools who aren't equipped. Perhaps the teacher could have phrased the punishment differently? Or made specific guidelines that might make it easier for your daughter to feel like a successful member of the group?

Okay, I'm done.

PJ said...

Plus it's illegal in some states.

Angie said...

I don't think it's fair, Sandy. I hate your daughter's school too. Ugh.

Anonymous said...

Sbe should be ashamed of *herself. Sorry!

PJ said...

Checking out Crystal's teeth.

Anonymous said...

Kasey, my daughter is PDD-NOS. I never hear anything good about her from the teacher, only the negative.

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PJ said...

"Illegal" was referring to SW and 13 yr old sitting in a tree, k-i-s-s-i-n-g...

PJ said...

Think she's a smoker, SW?

PJ said...

I love her...

Anonymous said...

Ooooh SW!!!

kristin said...

Sandy - I too hate your school - I would have a talk with the teacher and anyone else that has an association with your daughter to help her fit in better and work on wording things differently. I am sorry.

Well ladies, I am going to bed. I am tired - and SO has taken the week off for vacation and right now the silence is painful.

Going to retreat to my room and watch TV and read.

*see you guys tomorrow.

AP - if you pop on, you have a couple of e-mails from me.

Night all!

PJ said...

Night Kristin - sleep well tonight, hopefully!

Anonymous said...

Sandy,
I'd go speak to her teacher with her teacher. Ask her to articulate your daughter's strengths and weaknesses. Ask that she remember those strengths as she is planning activities. I imagine that the teacher feels overwhelmed and ill-equipped, but maybe a thoughtful conversation with you would help her get into a better mindset.
Does your daughter have any acquaintances with similar struggles? I run a "play group" one weekend a month in a park with 5 students on the spectrum. The kids respond to each other and feel less pressure to conform. Just my thoughts.

Angie said...

Do I recall correctly, Sandy, that you had a really unpleasant meeting with the school a while back?

Angie said...

Ya'll are mean! I'm not a cougar and I can't stand that kid! I'm going to bed in a huff! ;-)

PJ said...

SW,
I only tease those I have a thing for.

::saying this only because AP is not here::

Angie said...

::less huffy, still heading to bed::

Anonymous said...

Night!

PJ said...
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Anonymous said...

Goodnight SW and yes, all my meetings with them suck because they are not equipped, staffed or whatever to handle kids on the spectrum.

PJ said...

Now that SW's off to bed - shhhhh.....

It's her birthday tomorrow, but don't tell anyone.

PJ said...

AP, don't worry - your sweetheart SW is safe with me - I have small thing syndrome.

PJ said...

But I imagine she's expecting a fabulous birthday gift - so get thee to the store! Stat.

Lisa said...

"AP, you're sweetheart is safe for you - I have small thing syndrome."

Oh, you like Israel, too?

Margaret, I'm s terribly sorry about your friend. Nothing we say can really help now, but maybe we can help you later. *sighs*

Shannon, glad things are going more in your favor now. Hopefully some of this stress will be lifted off you soon!

Kristin, goodnight and I'll check email in a bit!

JM's post? Whatever, no sympathy. It's all of her own making, this mess she's in. Stop whining about it and start fixing it. I've got $5 that says they're talking divorce.

Robin in Montana said...

Idol won't even come on here for another 45 minutes, and there's no way I'll make it that long tonight. 5:00 will come way too early tomorrow. G'night! ::yawns:::

Robin in Montana said...

I bet you're right on the divorce thing, AP

Anonymous said...

What up, ladies?

Mck needs to call the whaaaambulance.

How's life this Tuesday evening?

Lisa said...

We shall see. But man, that would look rough to her readers after all the talk she's been doing as Ms. Marriage Expert, wouldn't it?

G'night to you, too.

Lisa said...

Mck needs to call the whaaaambulance.

That reminds me...I need to make our Best Of link. I liked that idea! Everyone else okay with it?

Anonymous said...

Can I just say that Mr. Shortround looks a little despondent...

"Hey, Mom and Dad? Do you think I could get a GOD DAMN name up in here? kthanxbye."

Anonymous said...

I like that idea, AP. A place where we could get our lol's.

Nilia said...

I'm late to the party!

Sandy I stopped reading when you mentioned your situation and have to go back and catch up.

BUT...

Teachers will use peer pressure to try to change the behaviour of one or a few. I've done this (not with tests, but with detentions). Having said that, it sounds as if your daughter is already having some difficulties socially, and so I would NEVER have used her to punish the class. I would deal with her on her own, keep her in to make up time she wastes in class with her behaviour if that was the problem.

Peer pressure is no good here, the others will single her out even more if they are *already doing this. Peer pressure works for a popular kid, who depends on the adulation of the class. I'm sorry Cs teacher is choosing to do this. I don't think you have to sit and take this though.

And a test? What the hell? Either the test would've been given anyway as part of the evaluation (and has to meet curriculum / have a purpose) or it wouldn't. A "punishment test" with no other purpose (i.e. wouldn't have been given otherwise) cannot be used toward evaluating marks. I'd speak to her and then admin. Do you have options with any other school? I would seriously consider this.

Also, if her IEP identifies her social issues, which it sounds like it should, the teacher cannot turn that back on her to punish her or to try to change her behaviour by having other students bully her (WTH??). If the IEP identifies it, then that would indicate that at least part of it is out of her control and so she needs to have things accomodated or modified. I disagree very much with her tactic. I don't care if she is tired of your daughter or her antics or her behaviour or whatever, I do not think she is a very good teacher.

I'm sorry, some teachers give the rest of us a bad name.

Nilia said...

Bella: I **LOVE that caption, LOL! Yes, he could very well be thinking that!

Poor Shortround Steve.

Nilia said...

AP: sounds good to me!

T@iy@ said...

So Shortround really doesn't have a name?

Yes, I am a lurker.

Nilia said...

No Taiya, he really truly doesn't. When he does get a names I don't think I will post here since we have some stalker-lurkers (not the benign ones, no worries!) but for real he has not been named yet. He will be 3 weeks old on Friday. He was 8 days overdue. They had boy names whittled down to 2, then put one more back which had been eliminated, and then added at least one more that I know of. They are professionals (brother's a lawyer, SIL a high school teacher). They are late for everything, but this is ridiculous!

Nilia said...

Taiya: to clarify, you are not the lurker I refer to.

Nilia said...

PS: I called my brother a douche-canoe earlier today, he'd never heard of it. But he did share this with me via text:

I saw a guy on Hell's Kitchen (the Chef Ramsay reality show) call Chef Ramsay a Douche-Nozzle. If I was drinking milk it would've shot 15 feet across the room out of my nose.

T@iy@ said...

I gotcha. Although he is cute enough to want to grab him and cuddle him, I won't steal. :)

So now I am doubly determined to find a little girl name! No way am I waiting that long.

We did find Abrianna the other day which I kind of like. Abri (Ay-bree) for short, so if I all else fails she is getting that darn name!

Shannon said...

LOL FT "Taiya: to clarify, you are not the lurker I refer to."

No Taiya we LIKE you the lurker in question could go away forever and it would be ok :) We dont want you to go away EVER.

T@iy@ said...

Well, that's good. I just quit all of the forums... don't make me leave here, too!

Nilia said...

Shannon: thanks for backing me up. Without saying more, I don't want Taiya to feel uncomfortable and wonder if it's her. It's not. Taiya is a real nice fit here, isn't she? :0)

T@iy@ said...

No worries. :) I shall continue to lurk until tossed out on my ear. :)

Anonymous said...

I agree, FT. She just fits right in.

There are, *ahem, other lurkers that do not fit in well here. To be honest, they don't fit in anywhere. Sad, lonely lurkers!

Anonymous said...

Thanks for you insight FT. Another strongly worded email was sent again to fall on deaf ears.

I'm trying to find other alternatives for her. Other than homeschooling (I don't know if I could do it), I don't know where to begin.

T@iy@ said...

Well, this lurker (of the good sort, apparently) is off to bed. My 'baby' girl is sleeping in her big girl bed for the first time tonight, so I have been staying up in case she needed me, but I guess she doesn't. *sniff sniff*

'Night!

Anonymous said...

Definitely not you Taiya. It's the evil lurkers. Back to lurking myself. lol

Shannon said...

Taiya does fit in pretty darn good and I am glad she is still here because I did worry when I saw her leaving the forums but I could completely understand her reasoning.


And for what Bella said about the sad lonely lurkers......yeah they know who they are.

Shannon said...

Night Taiya.....proud the little one is in her bed all happy sad though that she couldnt at least pretend to need mommy :)

Anonymous said...

Shannon, how is school going?

PJ said...

Night Taiya -

::she still needs you, trust this mom of a 20 and 24 year old::

PJ said...

Technology is SO cool - I'm FB chatting with my niece in Togo (Africa)

Shannon said...

I go in tomorrow for my math final tomorrow morning. I found out that I only have to get 60% on the final to keep the B I have right now. That helped me relax a lot because I know I can get better then a 60% on the final :) I have an A in my business class and a B in my accounting class.....I dont know why I stressed out so bad about it :)

PJ said...

Shannon - I learned the whole idea of "good enough" in grad school. Sounds like you've got it down too.

Lindsay said...

Howdy!

Sandy - boo. I hate C's school. And I hate what they are doing to her. And I really hope you can find an alternative to this ridiculously craptastic place they call a school.

Yay Shannon on school and doctors.

AP - sorry about Miss Arse's eye infection, but she must have the greatest sense of humor ever.

FT - so. ummm. hubby threw out the packaging of the corned beef before I could take a picture of it. I'll still work on it for you, though.

Shannon said...

OHHHHH yes I do CK. Considering this is the same math class I took last term I will be happy just to pass it this time LOL

Nilia said...

Sandy: Damn, Daisy ate my comment. Let me try again.

My kids go to the school they do because my house is in the area which "belongs" to that school. But, if I had a big issue with my son's school, I could apply for an out-of bounds school. I would have to get permission from their school to leave (they could decline because of general declining enrolment and they don't want to lose any teachers if they get less kids), permission from the new school to start there, and I'd be responsible for transportation (i.e. even if new school is far my kids would not get schoolbus). I could for example, put the kids in my own school.

I am at a pretty small school (~330) and we have maybe 50 or 60 flex boundary kids. Some have sitters who live in the area of my school, or grandparents who watch them who live in the area, or they used to live in the area and want to finish out school with their friends. We have also had fresh-start situations, which is sincerely what I think you and your daughter need: a fresh start at a fresh new school. I mean her file will go with her, but old + new teachers won't get together to discuss so it'll just be paper. The principals might discuss but if you want to be a part of that you should. It sounds as if they have just made impressions about your daughter that they are not going to change. No matter what she does, I don't think she'll be given a fair shake. I'm sorry.

I considered moving my oldest when he was in Grade 1 to my school (not this one, the one I taught at before) because of some bullying problems I did not feel were being adequately addressed. I had my principals permission and was going to get my son's principal's permission when the other kid finally marked my son physically and was suspended. Every year I make sure he is never in this kids' class, I speak to him and staff at his school often re: this kid and am very certain nothing is happening. Well to my kid anyway, this kid is bullying others.

Nilia said...

Lindsay: LOL! It's okay, next time!

PJ said...

Sandy,
I've seen it that the classroom teacher can make all the difference. Sounds like she has one that's clueless. Are there better teachers in the next grade? One you might think is a better fit? It might be worth hanging in there if there are good teachers for next year.

Nilia said...

Oh and Sandy, her file should consist of official papers like yellow slips for behaviour or whatever you call it. Not anecdotal notes from a teacher giving their opinion of her. They don't belong there and as a teacher, I'd never put anything like that in writing (i.e. Little Sally is disruptive and doesn't stay in her seat, etc.). A student file is a permanent and legal record. So the new school should never find any of that in a file unless it was a serious behaviour (like bullying or suspensions) that would have paperwork attached to it.

PJ said...

FT - in the US, special ed students also have IEP's. Individual Educational Plan (I think). That would be in the file too. Very official - all kinds of federal laws about what's written in there.

Nilia said...

I agree with CK. A really good teacher can really make a great year for your daughter. See who's on those grades for next year. In my school, it's already been decided, maybe your school has too. Can you request a teacher? Schools are funny, my school and my kids school (same school board) have the same "official" policy, but my school will take a recommendation and my son's school will not.

PJ said...

In our school, a parent can make a request for a type of teacher (e.g., strict, flexible, strong in teaching to multiple learning styles) and the principal tries to make a good match.

Nilia said...

CK: sure, the IEP would be there too but it's all pretty clinical, don't you agree? That's not where a subsequent school would get a clear picture of behaviours and such (as I think Sandy might be worried about, a reputation following her from school to school), except identifying tests she'd taken or social skills level and such. No anecdotal which is good, kids who need a fresh start should get a real fresh start.

I've seen some kids come to my school with a file inches thick,and I'm thinking of one boy in particular who came to us this year, Grade 2, and this kid I swear he's as good as gold. His mom and my principal gave some indication that he has had issues with staff (authority) and other students at his old school. His mother is so grateful that's doing well, she sounded frustrated with the other school like Sandy does. He's had a couple of incidents with kids I think because he's just so friendly (I am not kidding) but the teachers just love him (we've discussed).

When he began to get picked on early on, I made it my personal mission to watch over him and I nail the kids who bug him (there are 2). The kids know it too. I don't know why, I feel so protective of him because he is a little awkward, but SUCH a nice kid. I am not exaggerating.

I would hate after such a great transition, to have him return to old behaviours. For the record, I didn't even look at his file, mom said he needed a fresh start so that's what I gave him. I have no idea, on my life, what is in there. His classroom teacher might, idk, but she adores him too. There are some financial needs there too so I gave him one of my kids' soccer balls (they each get one every year they play soccer). I hope it helps some of the kids accept him (a lot of them do, just some of the mean kids) if he brings a ball because sometimes they don't let him play.

My, I'm wordy tonight. I can talk a LOT about school related stuff. I guess that's a good thing.

Anonymous said...

The District fired our prinicpal. Her last day is this Friday. The teachers were the ones who got her canned. She was always in my corner and I will miss her something awful. She has a special place in her heart for kids with disabilities.

C has one more year at this school and then will go to the Middle School at a different building.

Her teacher is a first year. She does have a great way of getting kids to learn which is through music. Just some of the things that she does just baffles me. I had to ask her if she knew Caitlyn was on the spectrum because of some of the things she was doing.

They are not doing what is called for in the IEP at all. When I call them on it, I'm crazy mom from hell. One more year. I'll have to find out who will be teaching 5th grade. We had 6 teachers retire last year. The used to be 5th grade teachers are down in 2nd grade.

PJ said...

FT - that's a good point. I usually don't know a whole lot about special ed students when they come to our school. Some end up with a fresh start, others have the same problems.

I really think it depends on the teacher(s). I know I have students with IEPs who feel welcome and understood and appreciated in my music class, who don't do well in Phy Ed.

I tend to stick up for the odd duck myself. And it seems to pay off, most of the time. Letting them know I think they're okay helps them do their best.

Nilia said...

Holy shit, the teachers got the principal FIRED? In the middle of the year? Based on what?

Anyone who thinks teachers should not be unionized: here's a prime example. Mob mentality from staff or parents = dangerous. So glad for my union. I've only been a teacher for 4 years, and was never unionized before that. I thank God (I really really do) that I have a union to protect me.

PJ said...

Sandy,
Often new teachers are just barely keeping their heads above water. Not always good with unique learners.

I'm sorry to hear about the principal. Sad to lose a real advocate. Boo on those teachers.

If there's a more experienced teacher who's had good success with unique learners, that might be a good idea for next year.

If you don't see anything positive for next year, would it be very disruptive for C to move to another school? That would mean two moves in two years, right (the following year, too?)

You're a good mom - they are supposed to do what her IEP calls for, by law.

Anonymous said...

FIRED, SHIT CANNED...The teachers from what I was told (I'm on the Principal Advisory Board) were the deciding factor in her employment.

Nilia said...

Sandy: doesn't sound like you have much to lose. Make notes, organize your thoughts, and go one step up. Here, if I was getting no satisfaction from the school, I'd skip board and go to the Superintendent. That usually gets noticed, believe me.

Anonymous said...

Our Superintendent is a drunk. She was pulled over last year for DUI. She still has her job! NICE! Made the papers and everything.

Did I mention that my city was voted "Best place to raise a family"?

PJ said...

Wow on the superintendent.

Do you know who the new principal will be?

Nilia said...

Sandy: wow, things sure work different where you are. A parent earlier this school year demanded that my principal force me to apologize to her (she's a shit disturber and her thug son is an angel, grade 2 by the way). He told her (and rightly so) that really I did not work for him. I am employed by the board. I am also a member of the teaching "profession" and belong to a professional association, and if she felt she needed to file a complaint she would have to do so with the Ontario College of Teachers. And they couldn't care less if I hurt her feelings or was rude to her (her claim, I'm admitting nothing). Teachers here don't decide ANY staffing whatsoever. The board hires teachers, and then they can apply to certain schools. The principal interviews, but it is very hard to get a teacher out of a school. Sometimes good, sometimes bad...

Anonymous said...

Yes and from the rumor mill, she has little experience with special needs kids. I'll be scoping her out. I'll form my own opinions and go from there.

Lindsay said...

Ugh. What a nightmare. I didn't know they got the principal fired. I would look into another elementary in your district maybe. You drive her to school anyway, right? My district has a couple of "choice schools" where, assuming there is room, if you agree to provide transportation, any kid in the district can go there. I guess that's kind of what FT was saying.

Nilia said...

Sandy you're giving me convulsions.

PJ said...

Me too.

PJ said...

::Daisy Teachers twitching in unison::

Anonymous said...

Sandy,T.P. was voted best place to raise a family? Not knocking T.P. at all, but it borders some "shady" areas. Do you get "bus kids"? (outside of your area, but bussed in to your schools?)

And, Sandy, duuude, I live in Joliet...not knocking where you live AT ALL! I wish I lived there, lol.

Anonymous said...

Every staff member was "interviewed" last November right before Thanksgiving. They told the principal the day before Christmas break that she was canned. The School Board had nothing to do with it. One of the other parents on the Advisory Board, her dad is on the School Board. He said their "hands were tied" and that they couldn't-didn't have a say in the matter.

Nilia said...

"I guess that's kind of what FT was saying."

Lindsay: yes, but in a much wordier fashion, LOL!

Sandy: maybe let the year run out but if you don't get assurances for next year's teacher and/or good vibes from the new principal, you may have to consider putting her in a new school for Grade 5 and then again Grade 6 for middle school. Pain, I know.

Maybe you'll get a good principal but seriously if she knows why she's getting a job in mid-March she might just totally cater to the teachers since they might get her canned next. I still can't believe that.

Anonymous said...

This entire conversation makes me want to:

1. Keep my virgin womb virgin.

2. Homeschool.

Nilia said...

Sandy: what caused the interviews to even start? I am still trying to wrap my mind around this.

Shannon said...

It really is heartbreaking and distressing. One reason that my kids are alternative school kids.

PJ said...

FT,
In Minnesota, principals have a contract. Different from the teachers contract. But only the school board can fire a principal.

Anonymous said...

Bella, no "bus kids" YET. Oh come on Bella, you know you want to go cruising with me through the "Heights" and the Hills.

::passing out anti-convulsives to the Daisy teaching staff::

Nilia said...

CK: LOL!

PJ said...

Shannon,
I don't know how you can be so generous with Michelle. She's back insisting she has the bat phone to God. And that anyone who doesn't believe the same thing from the bible that she does has two tin cans and a string.

She's moved to Sami's BF where she can say what she believes and have everyone agree with her.

How's that for wanting to learn and being open?

Anonymous said...

I have been fighting this battle since C was in kindergarten!

Homeschooling is looking really good but I would still need to send her to the District (her current school) for services. She is still in speech because of pragmatic language issues.

Nilia said...

Thanks Sandy. I am ashamed I share a professional title with those "teachers".

Anonymous said...

LMAO Sandy.

One wrong turn where we live and we end up in "The West Side Of Chicago"...you know what that means.

Crack.

Jennifer-Lynn said...

Hi all.

Sandy, I wish I had some words of advice for you, but I don't. Instead, I send you hugs and good wishes.

Margaret: is your friend an Orthodox, Conservative or Reform Jew? There are different rules depending on her congregation affiliation.

Anonymous said...

I tell you my life is like a bad country song. When my dog leaves me...that's the end people. lol

PJ said...

Had to make my own martini tonight. The Husband is off doing his sleep study (he snores and stops breathing when he sleeps).

Either that or he's out making bacon with some woman named Rielle.

Lindsay said...

Now, I think I'm cancelling next year's St. Patty's Day trip to Chicago. Sounds scary.

PJ said...

I hope he remembered his Levitra.

PJ said...

Oh, I meant to share, the accent wall looks lovely.

Jennifer-Lynn said...

CK:

I just snorted.

Lindsay said...

CK - that Rielle posing with her daughter's stuffed animals gives me the creeps.

Hubs did his sleep study before his lap band and we bought the stupid machine and it was like sleeping with Darth Vader. Awful. Thank God he doesn't use it anymore. I guess he's taking his chances with death.

Nilia said...

Margaret, I forgot I meant to post this. I am sorry to hear about your friend. That's a hard place to be. I've been to a Jewish graveside service, it wasn't much different from other graveside services I'd been to except for what was spoken. Is your friend Orthodox or something? Are you familiar with the rules of sitting shiva? You might want to familiarize yourself with these rules, ask me if you can't find answers.

I have been to a ceremony one year following not sure what it's called but it's where the headstone is placed and there's a whole ceremony around these. But no strict formalities like where you'd be afraid to do something "wrong".

But shiva is pretty specific, read up on that if you can or ask.

PJ said...

Ouch, BD.

Anonymous said...

"Sleeping like Darth Vader" LMAO

Jennifer-Lynn said...

FT:

The anniversary of a Jewish person's death is called a yahrzeit.

If your friend is Orthodox, you may have to wear a hat to the synagogue where the ceremony is held. You may also notice people putting stones around the gravesite; that's a Jewish custom but may only be done at the unveiling of the gravestone.

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