Lordy, y'all have given me a lot to thinkn about concerning God. CK, thank you for sharing, thank you all. I need to think on it because not only are I dum sometimes, but because I view God in so much more of a simplistic manner than many of you do that it takes me awhile to wrap my head around your concepts and the complexity of them. And truly, I've just made myself sound like I'm slow, I know. Or reeeeeeeeally Appalachian. Or both. I'm embarrassed.
Lemon milk chicken? Meh, don't bother. I did it exactly by the directions no variances and it was good, yes, but not anything special. I couldn't tell the milk did a damn thing but make little curds. The garlic that we're supposed to squueeze out like roasted garlic? Was not good. I put way more fresh sage than I've ever added to anything in my life and could barely detect it. I will say it was amazingly lemony and I'll use that trick of adding the zest (in big pieces, not grated) of several lemons to roasting chickens again. It was super lemony and would make the best cold chicken for summer salads. So, there you go.
This is very good. From a poster named Anna on MWoP:
I read and enjoy a blog entitled Suburban Turmoil. The blog author, Lindsay, recently attended Blissdom - the same conference as MckMama. She has just written a blog about what she encountered there:
A few excerpts are below. Not to say that MckMama hasn't always been self-centered, but this explains so much.
Lindsay writes: "And everyone was Twittering. And everyone was negotiating sponsorship deals and compiling press kits and discussing crazy topics like search engine optimization. The blogging conferences I attended became less about meeting online friends in person and more about sharing information on how to make more money.
And when I meet up with groups of bloggers, I feel like a stranger in a strange land. I hear women talking about the importance of keeping posts short so that they can be easily read on iPhones, about labeling the family photos I post with terms that will drive more traffic to my blog, and about never posting on Fridays because no one's reading that day anyway. I'm beginning to wonder if the actual content of my blog and the quality of my writing even still matter.
I've started hearing some of the writers I respect most talk about the "characters" they've created for their blogs, characters that contain bits and pieces of themselves, but are cleverly gussied up and sanitized to appeal to a widespread readership. And I feel ashamed and vulnerable, because I didn't create a character for this blog. This is actually me- often the over-the-top, entertainer me that's reserved for nights out with my girlfriends, but me, nonetheless."
We raise our own black angus steers. My best results on either lean or fatty roasts is to do them in the oven in a dutch oven type roasting dish. Sear them first on all sides to hold in the juice. The variables then are time/heat and lid off or on time. I have only done a few counter top slow cooker roasts and they have not turned out well. They get all rubbery or dry. Caveat to all that, though, is that I am not skilled in crock potting except for sauces, stews, chili and of course, hot chocolate.
We do it for Fourth of July. Guess I should say it is more of a keep it warm rather than cook. Make the hot chocolate in a double broiler place the batch in the slow cooker and you have warm hot chocolate all night! Told you I was no chef :-D
AP, thanks for the milk chicken review. I'll probably skip it, but I enjoyed the review!
I like Lindsay of Suburban Turmoil. She has a "warts and all" approach that I think is refreshing. She's struggled with not fitting in with other Christian women, and has been very blunt about it.
AP, I need to know more about your upbringing. Appalachian? Like Deliverance? + American Indian? Is there an AP: The Early Years post on your blog somewhere? You are interesting.
CK, SW...you have given me much food for thought and I enjoy so much your posts. AP...You are of the literal original Walton Mountain clan, but I have heard you *speak on these things and have always found it intelligent and never, ever *ignurant.
Thank you so much CK and SW!!! Lady Balls? LMAO! I love it! My DH and AP have said that, but not in that term. I am so proud of that term I think I will name my firt ever blog spot that...unless it is already taken (?) because so many here have them, too...and that is a very good thing :-D What a relief!
SW, no, no "early years" post. It's not all that interesting, really. I have to laugh at the Deliverance reference because there was certainly a lot of that, but not in my family. We only inbred a couple of times on my mom's side and my dad's family were immigrants from Virginia. :-D I was born and partially raised in extreme southeastern Kentucky, literally up the proverbial holler. My family is a mix of Cherokee and Lumbee Indian, Melungeon, a dollop of black and a smudge of white. I was raised with the old mountain ways - using herbs to heal, planting gardens by moon phases, using divining rods, spells and "magic" mixed with a healthy dose of Southern Baptist fire and brimstone. Except for loving the old hymns and Jesus (although I'm no Christian, I'll make clear), I overcame the Southern Baptist part. That's about it in a nutshell. :-)
Okay, AP, now I'm starting to see a bit of light. I was really confused by your God post earlier because I didn't think you were Christian, and I'm used to Christians having radical views on things like you were talking about earlier. But what do you mean you love Jesus but aren't a Christian?
Mck from Twitter: "I'm scared. I'm scared that this brokenness feeling will fade once we return from Kenya & I'll go back to my selfish self. How do I keep it?"
SW, LMAO, I have been following her bs today. I have been clicking her blog like every 2 seconds for the last 6 hours waiting for the post she said she was ready to put up. What the hell?
JM is definitely a live in the moment kind of person...once she's home, it'll all be lost. Actually, I think she's just being all dramatic now or she'd have emailed her dad privately. Kaytie (trying to get used to that name!), JM is MckMama herself.
Mulie, I *love bluegrass. Do you, as well? And how are you feeling?
SW, you asked: But what do you mean you love Jesus but aren't a Christian?
I believe Jesus lived and was a wonderful, remarkable man. A leader of men, leading those lost spiritually onto a path that would lead them to God. A savior. That said, I don't believe he was the *only leader of men, I don't believe Mary was a virgin and that God was Jesus' father, I don't believe he was resurrected or that he's coming back. I also don't believe he's the only son of God and I don't believe there's only one path to God. I also don't believe in Heaven or Hell. I could go on but yeah, I'm no Christian. Just a big fan of Jesus. :-)
No way, MLWB! You're making her $$ by clicking? I'm on the JM wagon. I haven't read her at all in over a week, except for excerpts posted here. No MWOP either. I feel so free! And yet, somehow, broken.
When I was going through my last "break-up" with Christianity, I wanted to think that it was the misogynists of the New Testament (like Paul) who gave Christianity its bad name. And that Jesus was all peace and love. Then I went through and red just the "red parts" of the NT all at once, and came away with a different view.
I just pulled an open can of Coke Zero out of the fridge and sipped it to see if it was too flat to be drank (drunk?). It had rum in it. I wonder when I did that?
Muliebrity- ::waving hello:: Thank you for bringing me up to speed!
JM is a twit. OK, so I have viewed her blog exactly once. Made me want to puke. So like the bible thumping, evangelical, do gooders who broad cast their Christian deeds and Angst to any and all. From personal experience, they are the most selfish, greedy, backstabbing people. I am NOT talking of people that go about their lives and DO things to HELP other people, even if they are coaxed, shamed <---AP, notice I said the word---> or just stumble in to it or want to do it!
SW, I've been doing some more thinking - know that I can be pretty random, so this won't necessary be in any logical order in terms flowing smoothly from my last spiritual post.
To me there's a distinction between spirituality and religion. Religion is man made. Religion and churches can be terribly misdirected from the nature of who some call God/Creator/Mother/Father/Big One in the Sky/Heavenly Head Honcho/Lady Balls....
Again, the name thing - I struggle because when people say God, it conjures up all kinds of pre-conceived notions. I don't think of "her" with those old fashioned rules/characteristics.
So, let's just call her Gizmo, for illustrative purposes.
Lately I've been pondering if there is a single Gizmo, but different cultures at different times and in different places have created religions to "understand" this Gizmo.
I happen to live in the Midwest - my vehicle to Gizmo is through liberal Christianity. A lot of the details about Christianity were created by *man to help us understand this Gizmo.
People in other parts of the world come to know Gizmo through *man made texts, stories, experiences, perspectives from their historical backgrounds and cultures. Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism.
But they are all about being in a relationship with Gizmo. But humans created different ways to be in that relationship.
I guess I believe Gizmo is is way beyond our comprehension, and who's to say she's limited to one religious understanding.
SW, the NT is useless, imo. It's what men wrote, and many hundreds of years after Jesus died. Add translation into that and I'd not trust a word of it. It's propaganda and some pretty stories, nothing more.
AP - Bluegrass is kind of my thing. I love music, but I can't really drag small children and babies to concerts or the symphony, so bluegrass is how we roll. A lot of them that we have been to should just be held at old folks homes and we are the youngest people by like 50 years, but otherwise, it's just good, clean, banjo pickin, fun! Ye haw!
"Why is it that I feel bad for mocking her for so many other things, but this?"
Maybe because you don't relate to her, Mulie. I kind of do. I see some of my most negative traits in her: like the way she makes everything about herself, even the suffering of children in Africa. That's the kind of stupid-ass shit I do.
MLWB, it wasn't very flat so apparently I did it within the last day or so. Huh...I'm becoming a chug. Yes, I just uttered another racial slur. *shrugs and laughs*
Hey, Kaytie, I'm curious - you're a nurse and not just a standard-issue RN so would you say it's okay for a pregnant woman to go to Africa for non-emergency reasons?
I have kind of developed a "relationship" with her since I started whoring around her BF and it has been very positive. She even sent me a direct message on twitter and linked my (crappy) blog on a blog post. I try to make the things that I "hate" on her for, the sames things I would hate on anyone else for.
"I kind of do. I see some of my most negative traits in her: like the way she makes everything about herself, even the suffering of children in Africa. That's the kind of stupid-ass shit I do."
SW, I was raised to believe nothing is about me, so get over it, but I totally get what you are saying.
Ap, After seeing the pics of what they are doing, I think it is fine. She is in a pretty nice hotel considering where the locals live. She seems to be riding in a nice van too. Oh and the food/table looked nice as well. She is NOT roughing it, by any means. All she does is walk around and look at things. It can't be that unsafe for her. I pictured it being much worse. She has all the comforts of home, from what I see. I think they should have to live like the locals do to really appreciate it.
MLWB, being completely self-centered like Mck is the kind of stupid-ass shit I do. What I haven't yet figured out though is how to capitalize on it like she does. I'm just as shallow and selfish as she is. Yet I don't have a single sheeple!
CK, you said: "To me there's a distinction between spirituality and religion. Religion is man made."
BINGO! This is why, when people ask me what my religion is, I struggle and stutter some. It just *is, there is no religion, meaning it isn't a religion at all...it's a spirituality that touches every part of my life.
SW, I think being single and without children is very different. You can be that way. When you have a spouse/partner and children it has to be different. If all I had to concern myself with was me, It would be very different around here!
SW, Jesus stories were mostly passed down by family and from the NT. I believe the basis of the stories, the morals of them, and in large part because he's also recognized in other religions. I don't buy the quotes for a moment and I think there are scientific explanations for things like walking on water, if that even appeared to have happened. Oh, and here's where I will probably get into trouble but I don't believe he died for our sins but I believe he *thought he and others thought that was the case and really, it's the thought that counts. I actually think there was a strong chance Jesus was mentally ill. You know, like the homeless man who feeds the ducks and talks to God in the park. :-D I still think what he was pretty terrific.
This was written by Karla Yaconelli, spouse of Mike Yaconelli who wrote "Messy Spirituality" (a very good book on authentic, deep, meaningful spirituality). Mike died in a car accident in 2003.
"Together we learned not only that, despite our warts, flaws, and most egregious mistakes and shortcomings, God’s grace is infinitely bigger than we’d ever dreamed, but also that God actually had a special fondness - a downright preference, if you will - for misfits and “screwups” like the two of us. And there came a day when we knew we could trust this as surely as we could trust the air that we breathed and the hearts that beat within us.
I know if my beloved husband could say anything to those of you who are reading these words and who are about to embark on the adventure of reading this book, it would be this:
Take heart, my friends. You are in good company. You, with all of your faults and imperfections; you, with your defects and failures; you, with your hang-ups and emotional scars; you, with your weaknesses and your defeats; you, with all of your blunders, brokenness, and floundering: you are God’s beloved, God’s favored, the disciple whose name God calls, the one Jesus prefers to hang with, eat with, play with, talk with, cry with, and laugh with. You are the one whom the holy God of heaven and earth longs to spend time with. You are all of this and more. You always have been. And you always will be."
She wasn't talking to "Christians". She was writing to everybody.
People are at different places - but I believe Gizmo wants to know we're all loved and cherished. And that it's not reserved just for religious people.
BD, I'm so sorry...I've been thinking about what you said this evening and forgot to comment. I'm so sorry that you're hitting yet another rough patch of worry. I swear, you've had your share and most of someone else's this year. :-(
CK, yes, it is very much Native American. You were mentioning Gizmo and while I refer to the singular God, I don't believe there is just one aspect to God. I believe most everything has both male and female energy to it and while the male part made out world work, made it function and throws in some Tim Taylor grunts from time to time, I also believe there's a feminine side to it all. The part that makes us appreciate and crave beauty and color and order and gentleness. The part that makes us *feel. And really, only a female part would make us see in color. :-)
Hey, Kaytie, I'm curious - you're a nurse and not just a standard-issue RN so would you say it's okay for a pregnant woman to go to Africa for non-emergency reasons?
I do 17 yrs or adults in ICU, not an L&D or NICU RN. There are so many infection related issuses just traveling by plane, and then to go off to Africa? The pics showed the garbage all around and water out of hanging cans. Where are they staying, Marriott? With water filtration and personal chefs? No way in hell I would subject my fetus to that. AND in the pics, not sure if it is her, she is looking pretty bloated. Preeclampsic. Frankly alarmed me. I do not have a past or grudge against this person. Just think she is an idiot to subject herself and her fetus to all this, not to mention to being at LEAST a day away from her other four kids if they have an emergency. Another example of bible thumping evangelical do gooders out saving the world, bragging and angsting about it, while their own are neglected. Aren't you glad you invited me :-D Ummmm...don't answer that-LOL!
Years ago, the State of MN created a curriculum for teaching/learning about Native American culture.
The white folks involved wanted a chapter on Religion. The Native elders said no, it's not something separate to be isolated.
They said it's part of every aspect of life. So the elders insisted that it be in the section on music and dancing, in the section on hunting, in the section on families, in the section on history, etc.
"Another example of bible thumping evangelical do gooders out saving the world, bragging and angsting about it, while their own are neglected. Aren't you glad you invited me :-D Ummmm...don't answer that-LOL!"
*sighs happily* Yes, I am. I'm just sorry I didn't do it sooner.
"The white folks involved wanted a chapter on Religion. The Native elders said no, it's not something separate to be isolated."
Exactly. It just *is. I get, though, that that is something difficult for people to understand who haven't been brought up that way. In the end, and Corinne, maybe this will serve as a partial reply to your thoughts, too. God is our creator and our "father", although "parents" would be a better word. We are siblings with our land, our earth, and together, we all make a whole. We make a family. Everything we need is given to us within our family (my thoughts here, not stating as fact) and when our parents don't give us something, we need to accept that because they are wiser than we are.
AP, I think many of us didn't get what we needed from our parents. Often because they didn't get what they needed from their parents. On an emotional level.
I just came home from an awesome meal to find that Oz "cleaned" out the pantry.
Dehydrated Shittake mushrooms, egg noodles, a package of ramen, an almost empty bag of dog food, and a new box of tea....all shredded on the living room floor.
I was supposed to take him to the groomer this week, but he's being boarded next week, so I figured there was no point. I'm in no mood to bathe that dog. Ever. It could be the cats, but I don't think it's been a month since hubby put their flea junk on them.
I hate fleas. I also hate the chemicals you have to put on them to keep the fleas away. I put a citronella collar on my dog last summer, it seemed to work.
These fleas always seem to land on my little one too! My cats are indoor, but sneak outside sometimes. Well I wasn't treating them monthly and they would have a flea here or there. I still have no idea how they got there, but I found a damn flea circus dancing around his bassinet. At that moment, I wished it was acceptable to put a cat down for bringing in fleas.
I had a real flea problem in the house two years ago. We bombed twice, and I was still waking up with bites. And I vacuumed, bagged pillows, the whole deal. Those little buggers drove me nuts. And, the whole time you feel so "dirty" because you have bugs in the house. YUCK.
Hey all - i'm so so so so far behind! Jumping in and hope to catch up this weekend, somehow!
Whats new? I'm watching Birdcage - this is one movie I will watch every single time I see that its on - and laugh every time! Patti fell asleep but she can some some of the parts of the movie line for line!!!
I'm back. Jake left to do audio work for some local little garage band around 9 and I didn't expect him home until 2 or 3. Actually, I expected a text letting me know he was going to spend the night there. But nooooo, Mr. Homebody strolls in at 12:15, proclaiming he was bored and if he had to be bored, he'd rather be bored at home. Uh, thanks? So now I'm being treated to a very loud session of him learning to play an electric guitar. To his credit, I'm already recognizing what he's playing two days into it but get a grip, Skip. It's nearly 1am and I'm noise-sensitive. Plus, he's scaring the cats.
Ok. Just checked out JM's blog for the first time since she started blogging about Kenya and I'm not loving some of the pictures I see of the people on the trip with them crying holding the children of Kenya. I find it incredibly insulting that someone would have the nerve to cry in front of those people. I am sure they are proud and don't find themselves to be "broken". While I am sure they are grateful for assistance and opportunities afforded by trips such as these, I can't imagine being put in a position to comfort those who are "doing" for you. Am I just reading into this too much? I am bothered.
Mulie, the only thing we've found for fleas that is a sure bet is Revolution. We get them so bad here that even non-pet owners get them...it's awful. The Revolution even takes care of the gross worms your pets can get from fleas, too. We order it online and if you need a link, let me know. Although I hate doing it, sometimes bombing the whole house is in order and then use the Revolution when you bring your pets back in. I hate bugs.
I won't spray inside with the little ones. An exterminator once told me, "as long as they aren't licking the baseboards, they'll be fine!" Have you met my kids? They would not think twice about licking anything! They are 1 and 4! I had to tell them 20 times tonight to stop drinking the bathwater!
"Am I just reading into this too much? I am bothered."
Nope, I noticed the same and couldn't express it. You did. The people themselves look happy. They are decently dressed and no one looks to be starving so how insulting and arrogant is it to imply they need help because they aren't living up to the standards *she wants for them? I did notice one requisite picture of a kid with a dirty nose. *eyeroll* Most looked quite clean, cleaner than I've seen her own look on numerous occasions. But in the eyes of the tall, white Christians, they are dark and poor, therefore they are dirty and starving and need "us", as God intended. Fuck me.
I read a bit last night but everyone seemed to be sleeping already! and we've had internet problems and its been on and off.... gonna try to read to catch up tonight but there is SO much to read!!
All for vaccinations, health education and affording the women and children opportunity and ways to support themselves, but breaking down because their running water is an old jug hung from a sting? That reaction sickens me. Really.
Everyone is welcome! The only real rules here are no spamming shit and no posting personal addresses, phone numbers or other similar info. I don't need that kind of stress. That's it, although it could change if someone gets creative or something. If you don't like what is said here, you can: 1) Say so; 2) Hold it in and stew on it; 3. Address it privately to the person who said it; 4) Snark about it to your friends; 5) Leave. Don't bother me with it, I don't care and I won't get involved. I might, however, talk about you behind your back or post your email/message to me on here. *grins*
Them's the rules...all of them.
Have fun!
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::duct tape::
"tonnes"
Hey, FT, is that the Canadian spelling?
Lordy, y'all have given me a lot to thinkn about concerning God. CK, thank you for sharing, thank you all. I need to think on it because not only are I dum sometimes, but because I view God in so much more of a simplistic manner than many of you do that it takes me awhile to wrap my head around your concepts and the complexity of them. And truly, I've just made myself sound like I'm slow, I know. Or reeeeeeeeally Appalachian. Or both. I'm embarrassed.
Lemon milk chicken? Meh, don't bother. I did it exactly by the directions no variances and it was good, yes, but not anything special. I couldn't tell the milk did a damn thing but make little curds. The garlic that we're supposed to squueeze out like roasted garlic? Was not good. I put way more fresh sage than I've ever added to anything in my life and could barely detect it. I will say it was amazingly lemony and I'll use that trick of adding the zest (in big pieces, not grated) of several lemons to roasting chickens again. It was super lemony and would make the best cold chicken for summer salads. So, there you go.
I just have to say, I like Reverb's pictures
::duct tape::
Jill, I see you up there. :-) I was just wondering about you. How did things go with the memorial and how are you doing?
FT - is duct tape the new poop?
or do you just have duct tape fetish?
This is very good. From a poster named Anna on MWoP:
I read and enjoy a blog entitled Suburban Turmoil. The blog author, Lindsay, recently attended Blissdom - the same conference as MckMama. She has just written a blog about what she encountered there:
http://suburbanturmoil.blogspot.com/2010/03/little-blog.html
A few excerpts are below. Not to say that MckMama hasn't always been self-centered, but this explains so much.
Lindsay writes: "And everyone was Twittering. And everyone was negotiating sponsorship deals and compiling press kits and discussing crazy topics like search engine optimization. The blogging conferences I attended became less about meeting online friends in person and more about sharing information on how to make more money.
And when I meet up with groups of bloggers, I feel like a stranger in a strange land. I hear women talking about the importance of keeping posts short so that they can be easily read on iPhones, about labeling the family photos I post with terms that will drive more traffic to my blog, and about never posting on Fridays because no one's reading that day anyway. I'm beginning to wonder if the actual content of my blog and the quality of my writing even still matter.
I've started hearing some of the writers I respect most talk about the "characters" they've created for their blogs, characters that contain bits and pieces of themselves, but are cleverly gussied up and sanitized to appeal to a widespread readership. And I feel ashamed and vulnerable, because I didn't create a character for this blog. This is actually me- often the over-the-top, entertainer me that's reserved for nights out with my girlfriends, but me, nonetheless."
CK, I know Robin reads and posts on both so I don't think it's a rule there.
AP: oui! Some words I remember by thinking how they'd be spelled in French, like colour, cheque, tonne.
Thanks for taking one for the team and trying the lemon chicken though. I think I'm going to pass on this one.
I meant the milk chicken, oops.
FT is using a double dose of duct tape. Please, share what you're thinking... So we can all nod in agreement.
I read that CK! Very interesting, very, very interesting to know they go to find ways to increase traffic to their blogs.
Kristin - yeah, it's like pick the latest "hot" topic, add it to your way too long description of who you are (but really aren't).
Must be advice RV followed - you know, Christian addicted to porn...
I always felt like their readers were being used. And now we have confirmation of that in their own words.
Just the irony of rules where you can't be here *and there. When we know they're here.
Sorry I didn't meant to post that three times, oopsie daisy. Sure does make me look intriguing, doesn't it?
Isn't that all the rage - porn addiction? Esp if you're a Christian?
What's next - we could start a pool...
I wish I could post on BF - I'd love to start a thread about the above observation from Blissdom.
We raise our own black angus steers. My best results on either lean or fatty roasts is to do them in the oven in a dutch oven type roasting dish. Sear them first on all sides to hold in the juice. The variables then are time/heat and lid off or on time. I have only done a few counter top slow cooker roasts and they have not turned out well. They get all rubbery or dry. Caveat to all that, though, is that I am not skilled in crock potting except for sauces, stews, chili and of course, hot chocolate.
Kay: how you crockpot hot chocolate??
Crock pot hot chocolate?
Kristin, maybe the problem isn't the roast, but the lack of gravy. Are you making gravy and putting it on the roast? That's the best part!
FT, chuck roast just isn't healthy eating, I'm sorry to say. I doubt there's really anything that can be done to make it healthy.
We do it for Fourth of July. Guess I should say it is more of a keep it warm rather than cook. Make the hot chocolate in a double broiler place the batch in the slow cooker and you have warm hot chocolate all night! Told you I was no chef :-D
"FT - is duct tape the new poop?"
Nice, Kristin!
AP, thanks for the milk chicken review. I'll probably skip it, but I enjoyed the review!
I like Lindsay of Suburban Turmoil. She has a "warts and all" approach that I think is refreshing. She's struggled with not fitting in with other Christian women, and has been very blunt about it.
FT,
Have you had a fractionated cholesterol test - where your HDL, LDL and Triglycerides are analyzed?
My chol was high for many years, but it was due to my HDL being high. Ratio was within acceptable range. Doctor said it was fine.
When I turned 46, the LDL went high, so total chol went high. And I had to go on Simvistatin. It dropped total Chol by 100 points.
AP, I need to know more about your upbringing. Appalachian? Like Deliverance? + American Indian? Is there an AP: The Early Years post on your blog somewhere? You are interesting.
Oh Yay! Memento is on cable tonight! I haven't seen it in years, and only saw it once. Great movie! Have you seen it, Corinne?
CK, SW...you have given me much food for thought and I enjoy so much your posts.
AP...You are of the literal original Walton Mountain clan, but I have heard you *speak on these things and have always found it intelligent and never, ever *ignurant.
Do you play banjo, AP?
Kay, I'm glad you are liking it here so far! And we're not even on our best behavior!
Kay, thanks - and you've just jumped right in to the fray. You have lady balls.
Thank you so much CK and SW!!! Lady Balls? LMAO! I love it! My DH and AP have said that, but not in that term. I am so proud of that term I think I will name my firt ever blog spot that...unless it is already taken (?) because so many here have them, too...and that is a very good thing :-D What a relief!
JM's dad just tweeted her.
SW, no, no "early years" post. It's not all that interesting, really. I have to laugh at the Deliverance reference because there was certainly a lot of that, but not in my family. We only inbred a couple of times on my mom's side and my dad's family were immigrants from Virginia. :-D I was born and partially raised in extreme southeastern Kentucky, literally up the proverbial holler. My family is a mix of Cherokee and Lumbee Indian, Melungeon, a dollop of black and a smudge of white. I was raised with the old mountain ways - using herbs to heal, planting gardens by moon phases, using divining rods, spells and "magic" mixed with a healthy dose of Southern Baptist fire and brimstone. Except for loving the old hymns and Jesus (although I'm no Christian, I'll make clear), I overcame the Southern Baptist part. That's about it in a nutshell. :-)
How do you tell who is replying to someone on twitter?
Okay, AP, now I'm starting to see a bit of light. I was really confused by your God post earlier because I didn't think you were Christian, and I'm used to Christians having radical views on things like you were talking about earlier. But what do you mean you love Jesus but aren't a Christian?
:::big ole happy sigh::: Daisies-isn't she (AP) grand?
She is that, Kay.
Taiya - just go to twitter.com and search "mckmama" and everyone who is tweeting her shows up!
AP - Tell me you love bluegrass too?
Who is JM? Is that a character of the McMania blog? I hate being a newbie!
JM = Jennifer McKinney = mckmama
Grrr. Never mind. Just go ahead and start calling me stupid.
Mck from Twitter: "I'm scared. I'm scared that this brokenness feeling will fade once we return from Kenya & I'll go back to my selfish self. How do I keep it?"
Where do I begin?
:::nodding::: she is that. And since you are *engaged to her, I am so glad she spilled it :-D
And AP-don't get all shy and quirky with SW ;-D
Mulie, a wealth of material, eh?
SW, Seriously. Well, let's see, usually when I'm filled with brokenness, I can't wait for it to go the eff away.
I do not play banjo, lol. And Kaytie, my grandmother's maiden name was Walton, for real. ;-) Lady Balls as a blog name...that's perfect!
ROFL Mulie! Me too! But I *almost feel bad mocking her, because I kind of get what she's trying to say.
AP, I'm waiting patiently to understand your views on Jesus. Don't clam up on me now! In for a penny and all...
Try @mckmama on the twitter search
Good evening ladies!
MLWB! Hi!
MLwB! Howdy, howdy.
How are you MLWB? To catch you up, it's Religion Friday at Daisy, and Mck is broken but worried she'll be fixed soon. What's new with you?
How are you guys? Staying out of trouble? Hope not.
SW, LMAO, I have been following her bs today. I have been clicking her blog like every 2 seconds for the last 6 hours waiting for the post she said she was ready to put up. What the hell?
JM is definitely a live in the moment kind of person...once she's home, it'll all be lost. Actually, I think she's just being all dramatic now or she'd have emailed her dad privately. Kaytie (trying to get used to that name!), JM is MckMama herself.
Mulie, I *love bluegrass. Do you, as well? And how are you feeling?
SW, you asked: But what do you mean you love Jesus but aren't a Christian?
I believe Jesus lived and was a wonderful, remarkable man. A leader of men, leading those lost spiritually onto a path that would lead them to God. A savior. That said, I don't believe he was the *only leader of men, I don't believe Mary was a virgin and that God was Jesus' father, I don't believe he was resurrected or that he's coming back. I also don't believe he's the only son of God and I don't believe there's only one path to God. I also don't believe in Heaven or Hell. I could go on but yeah, I'm no Christian. Just a big fan of Jesus. :-)
No way, MLWB! You're making her $$ by clicking? I'm on the JM wagon. I haven't read her at all in over a week, except for excerpts posted here. No MWOP either. I feel so free! And yet, somehow, broken.
MLWB, hello! It's great to see you. :-)
Can't y'all use a word other than "broken"?
SW, I am totally joking. I have not been clicking.
Hey AP!
When I was going through my last "break-up" with Christianity, I wanted to think that it was the misogynists of the New Testament (like Paul) who gave Christianity its bad name. And that Jesus was all peace and love. Then I went through and red just the "red parts" of the NT all at once, and came away with a different view.
*puzzled look*
I just pulled an open can of Coke Zero out of the fridge and sipped it to see if it was too flat to be drank (drunk?). It had rum in it. I wonder when I did that?
*almost feel bad mocking her, because I kind of get what she's trying to say.
Why is it that I feel bad for mocking her for so many other things, but this?
Whew, MLWB!
Muliebrity- ::waving hello:: Thank you for bringing me up to speed!
JM is a twit. OK, so I have viewed her blog exactly once. Made me want to puke. So like the bible thumping, evangelical, do gooders who broad cast their Christian deeds and Angst to any and all. From personal experience, they are the most selfish, greedy, backstabbing people. I am NOT talking of people that go about their lives and DO things to HELP other people, even if they are coaxed, shamed <---AP, notice I said the word---> or just stumble in to it or want to do it!
"It had rum in it. I wonder when I did that?"
HAHAHA! That cracked me up AP!!
SW,
I've been doing some more thinking - know that I can be pretty random, so this won't necessary be in any logical order in terms flowing smoothly from my last spiritual post.
To me there's a distinction between spirituality and religion. Religion is man made. Religion and churches can be terribly misdirected from the nature of who some call God/Creator/Mother/Father/Big One in the Sky/Heavenly Head Honcho/Lady Balls....
Again, the name thing - I struggle because when people say God, it conjures up all kinds of pre-conceived notions. I don't think of "her" with those old fashioned rules/characteristics.
So, let's just call her Gizmo, for illustrative purposes.
Lately I've been pondering if there is a single Gizmo, but different cultures at different times and in different places have created religions to "understand" this Gizmo.
I happen to live in the Midwest - my vehicle to Gizmo is through liberal Christianity. A lot of the details about Christianity were created by *man to help us understand this Gizmo.
People in other parts of the world come to know Gizmo through *man made texts, stories, experiences, perspectives from their historical backgrounds and cultures. Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism.
But they are all about being in a relationship with Gizmo. But humans created different ways to be in that relationship.
I guess I believe Gizmo is is way beyond our comprehension, and who's to say she's limited to one religious understanding.
SW, You lost me....
Ap-Ewww flat soday? Even with rum...ewww
SW, the NT is useless, imo. It's what men wrote, and many hundreds of years after Jesus died. Add translation into that and I'd not trust a word of it. It's propaganda and some pretty stories, nothing more.
SW - Yes, dear Paul. Did you catch all my *man made references?
AP - Bluegrass is kind of my thing. I love music, but I can't really drag small children and babies to concerts or the symphony, so bluegrass is how we roll. A lot of them that we have been to should just be held at old folks homes and we are the youngest people by like 50 years, but otherwise, it's just good, clean, banjo pickin, fun! Ye haw!
"Why is it that I feel bad for mocking her for so many other things, but this?"
Maybe because you don't relate to her, Mulie. I kind of do. I see some of my most negative traits in her: like the way she makes everything about herself, even the suffering of children in Africa. That's the kind of stupid-ass shit I do.
MLWB, I was relieved that you aren't really clicking Mck every two minutes, is all.
MLWB, it wasn't very flat so apparently I did it within the last day or so. Huh...I'm becoming a chug. Yes, I just uttered another racial slur. *shrugs and laughs*
Hey, Kaytie, I'm curious - you're a nurse and not just a standard-issue RN so would you say it's okay for a pregnant woman to go to Africa for non-emergency reasons?
No worries Sw, I have it in my feed if I want to read. What stupid ass shit do you do anyway?
I have kind of developed a "relationship" with her since I started whoring around her BF and it has been very positive. She even sent me a direct message on twitter and linked my (crappy) blog on a blog post. I try to make the things that I "hate" on her for, the sames things I would hate on anyone else for.
AP, where do you get your Jesus stories if not from the New Testament?
"I kind of do. I see some of my most negative traits in her: like the way she makes everything about herself, even the suffering of children in Africa. That's the kind of stupid-ass shit I do."
SW, I was raised to believe nothing is about me, so get over it, but I totally get what you are saying.
Ap, After seeing the pics of what they are doing, I think it is fine. She is in a pretty nice hotel considering where the locals live. She seems to be riding in a nice van too. Oh and the food/table looked nice as well. She is NOT roughing it, by any means. All she does is walk around and look at things. It can't be that unsafe for her. I pictured it being much worse. She has all the comforts of home, from what I see. I think they should have to live like the locals do to really appreciate it.
MLWB, being completely self-centered like Mck is the kind of stupid-ass shit I do. What I haven't yet figured out though is how to capitalize on it like she does. I'm just as shallow and selfish as she is. Yet I don't have a single sheeple!
CK, you said: "To me there's a distinction between spirituality and religion. Religion is man made."
BINGO! This is why, when people ask me what my religion is, I struggle and stutter some. It just *is, there is no religion, meaning it isn't a religion at all...it's a spirituality that touches every part of my life.
My next post is not an attempt to soul snatch ANYONE (ala Invasions of the Body Snatchers)
I. Promise.
It's just some really well written stuff that resonates with me, and where my spiritual heart comes from.
Hi all:
Drinking a glass of wine and hoping it will knock me into slumber.
How goes it here? I've been catching up, so my non-hidden ass was probably caught by the attentive.
http://stevenandersonfamily.blogspot.com/2008/09/another-fag-using-ivf-to-have-baby_24.html
Hold bitch on a stick, Batman!
Hold = Holy
SW, I think being single and without children is very different. You can be that way. When you have a spouse/partner and children it has to be different. If all I had to concern myself with was me, It would be very different around here!
Hey BD, you deserve a good night's sleep tonight. It's fine here. Mck is broken, have you heard?
AP - that's very Native American - spirituality that touches every part of your life.
Hi Bd, How are you feeling?
SW, Jesus stories were mostly passed down by family and from the NT. I believe the basis of the stories, the morals of them, and in large part because he's also recognized in other religions. I don't buy the quotes for a moment and I think there are scientific explanations for things like walking on water, if that even appeared to have happened. Oh, and here's where I will probably get into trouble but I don't believe he died for our sins but I believe he *thought he and others thought that was the case and really, it's the thought that counts. I actually think there was a strong chance Jesus was mentally ill. You know, like the homeless man who feeds the ducks and talks to God in the park. :-D I still think what he was pretty terrific.
"like the homeless man who feeds the ducks and talks to God in the park"
LOL I just keep falling in love with you all over again AP! Nice.
Okay, I'm out. Heading to bed to watch Project Runway. Night!
This was written by Karla Yaconelli, spouse of Mike Yaconelli who wrote "Messy Spirituality" (a very good book on authentic, deep, meaningful spirituality). Mike died in a car accident in 2003.
"Together we learned not only that, despite our warts, flaws, and most egregious mistakes and shortcomings, God’s grace is infinitely bigger than we’d ever dreamed, but also that God actually had a special fondness - a downright preference, if you will - for misfits and “screwups” like the two of us. And there came a day when we knew we could trust this as surely as we could trust the air that we breathed and the hearts that beat within us.
I know if my beloved husband could say anything to those of you who are reading these words and who are about to embark on the adventure of reading this book, it would be this:
Take heart, my friends. You are in good company. You, with all of your faults and imperfections; you, with your defects and failures; you, with your hang-ups and emotional scars; you, with your weaknesses and your defeats; you, with all of your blunders, brokenness, and floundering: you are God’s beloved, God’s favored, the disciple whose name God calls, the one Jesus prefers to hang with, eat with, play with, talk with, cry with, and laugh with. You are the one whom the holy God of heaven and earth longs to spend time with. You are all of this and more. You always have been. And you always will be."
She wasn't talking to "Christians". She was writing to everybody.
People are at different places - but I believe Gizmo wants to know we're all loved and cherished. And that it's not reserved just for religious people.
AP - Blasphemy! ::Hisss:: It may be time to exercise the demons!
AP,
I believe those "miracles" are just stories/examples/ways for those writing them down to get their own agendas across.
I'm off to bed too. Bye!
She could have included low life/no lifes too. hehe.
If Jesus were hanging in a homeless park, would he have internet access and be lurking here?
BD, I'm so sorry...I've been thinking about what you said this evening and forgot to comment. I'm so sorry that you're hitting yet another rough patch of worry. I swear, you've had your share and most of someone else's this year. :-(
CK, yes, it is very much Native American. You were mentioning Gizmo and while I refer to the singular God, I don't believe there is just one aspect to God. I believe most everything has both male and female energy to it and while the male part made out world work, made it function and throws in some Tim Taylor grunts from time to time, I also believe there's a feminine side to it all. The part that makes us appreciate and crave beauty and color and order and gentleness. The part that makes us *feel. And really, only a female part would make us see in color. :-)
Hey, Kaytie, I'm curious - you're a nurse and not just a standard-issue RN so would you say it's okay for a pregnant woman to go to Africa for non-emergency reasons?
I do 17 yrs or adults in ICU, not an L&D or NICU RN. There are so many infection related issuses just traveling by plane, and then to go off to Africa? The pics showed the garbage all around and water out of hanging cans. Where are they staying, Marriott? With water filtration and personal chefs? No way in hell I would subject my fetus to that. AND in the pics, not sure if it is her, she is looking pretty bloated. Preeclampsic. Frankly alarmed me. I do not have a past or grudge against this person. Just think she is an idiot to subject herself and her fetus to all this, not to mention to being at LEAST a day away from her other four kids if they have an emergency. Another example of bible thumping evangelical do gooders out saving the world, bragging and angsting about it, while their own are neglected. Aren't you glad you invited me :-D Ummmm...don't answer that-LOL!
"If Jesus were hanging in a homeless park, would he have internet access and be lurking here?"
And would he be a Communist droid?
Years ago, the State of MN created a curriculum for teaching/learning about Native American culture.
The white folks involved wanted a chapter on Religion. The Native elders said no, it's not something separate to be isolated.
They said it's part of every aspect of life. So the elders insisted that it be in the section on music and dancing, in the section on hunting, in the section on families, in the section on history, etc.
Most likely, AP. Certainly not wearing sandals, with a beard and Northern European features.
"Another example of bible thumping evangelical do gooders out saving the world, bragging and angsting about it, while their own are neglected. Aren't you glad you invited me :-D Ummmm...don't answer that-LOL!"
*sighs happily*
Yes, I am. I'm just sorry I didn't do it sooner.
Have you all ever seen Talledega Nights?
John C. Reilly: "I like to picture the baby Jesus as a mischevious badger."
Oh my God, that's glorious, because he's kind of deadpan, but also sort of glowing when he says it.
Yes AP, she adds a lot to the mix!
Sorry I've been away, doing laundry and putting away the roast, etc.
I'm exhausted tonight for some odd reason.
I don't think he would lurk, he would come out and chat with us! I'm pretty damn sure of it!
AP:
Thanks. I do feel a bit overwhelmed, but everything will work out, one way or another. Because it has to, right? It will be fine.
BD,
You'll do the good things you can, that are in your circle of influence.
I wish I had a deep fried hot dog right now...
I want a deep fried oreo. I want chocolate.
BD - it will all work out. That really does suck, I'm sorry.
"The white folks involved wanted a chapter on Religion. The Native elders said no, it's not something separate to be isolated."
Exactly. It just *is. I get, though, that that is something difficult for people to understand who haven't been brought up that way. In the end, and Corinne, maybe this will serve as a partial reply to your thoughts, too. God is our creator and our "father", although "parents" would be a better word. We are siblings with our land, our earth, and together, we all make a whole. We make a family. Everything we need is given to us within our family (my thoughts here, not stating as fact) and when our parents don't give us something, we need to accept that because they are wiser than we are.
Kristin, are you watching Dateline? Anybody else?
Since I'm old, I can say I recognized the woman from her commercials when she was a teen?
And now she looks like Annette Bening. Beautiful eyes.
I want a carne asada burrito, and a beef hot dot with sauerkraut.
"Thanks. I do feel a bit overwhelmed, but everything will work out, one way or another. Because it has to, right? It will be fine."
It will be, yes. It's the getting there that can suck hard. That's the part I hope you can avoid.
AP,
I think many of us didn't get what we needed from our parents. Often because they didn't get what they needed from their parents. On an emotional level.
dot=dog
I had a brownie at Starbucks last night. It has to be at least 5 years since I've eaten a brownie. It made me happy, if swollen.
BD - would that be an Indian hot dot?
I was half ass watching dateline, its over now.
Very well said AP. I agree with you on a lot of that.
I don't know where I stand or what I believe. Lately you guys have been making me question that and was going to blog about it soon.
Right now I think I'm gonna shut this puppy down and go to bed.
Night ladies!
UrKiddingMe2 @MckMama
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sqm158KHvo0
If those kids could request a song for you I think it would be this.
She is taking a beating over there.
And east or feather Indian?
When I saw the error, I was going to say beef hot dot (not feather). :)
What's the song? YouTube doesn't play well on this piece of shit computer.
OMG CK! That is great.
I skimmed through her latest post but I just kept hearing the teachers from charlie brown...blah, blah, blah, blah, blah
Alright, night all!
Kristin-You are spot on! Putting aside all the religion stuff...Jesus as a boy and as a man was a DOER, not a lurker.
Toby Keith - I wanna talk about me.
Alright, really stepping away from the computer!
BD:
I Want to Talk about Me, Toby Keith, the music video starring the Sanny G Crew.
My nephew has a t-shirt business and website called "jesus is a rebel dot com".
When he first said it to me, I thought he said "jesus has a rubber butt dot com".
Jesus'.Rubber.Butt.Killed.It.
Martini has brought out the dachshund. (cause martini = cheetos)
Off to finish watching The Hangover. BBL.
Actually, I was googling rubberbutt.com. :-D
I'm out, too. I might be back, though. If not, g'night all!
CK-LOL! Rubber Butt! I was busy YouTubing the Toby Keith/Sanny G Crew you and Kristin mentioned!
Sigh...being *Left Coast sucks some times.
So annoyed that I just found a flea on my baby's face!
I just came home from an awesome meal to find that Oz "cleaned" out the pantry.
Dehydrated Shittake mushrooms, egg noodles, a package of ramen, an almost empty bag of dog food, and a new box of tea....all shredded on the living room floor.
He got a spank on his Beyonce-sized ass.
Mulie-Ugh! and {{{{}}}} Hope the flea did not leave a bite!
I don't think it left a bite, but I guess I need to fumigate the dog tomorrow!
Mulie, I have heard bathing a dog with Dawn dish soap will make the fleas drop right off.
I was supposed to take him to the groomer this week, but he's being boarded next week, so I figured there was no point. I'm in no mood to bathe that dog. Ever. It could be the cats, but I don't think it's been a month since hubby put their flea junk on them.
I hate fleas. I also hate the chemicals you have to put on them to keep the fleas away. I put a citronella collar on my dog last summer, it seemed to work.
Fleas are disgusting, but ticks make me skeevy!
These fleas always seem to land on my little one too! My cats are indoor, but sneak outside sometimes. Well I wasn't treating them monthly and they would have a flea here or there. I still have no idea how they got there, but I found a damn flea circus dancing around his bassinet. At that moment, I wished it was acceptable to put a cat down for bringing in fleas.
I had a real flea problem in the house two years ago. We bombed twice, and I was still waking up with bites. And I vacuumed, bagged pillows, the whole deal. Those little buggers drove me nuts. And, the whole time you feel so "dirty" because you have bugs in the house. YUCK.
Hey all - i'm so so so so far behind! Jumping in and hope to catch up this weekend, somehow!
Whats new? I'm watching Birdcage - this is one movie I will watch every single time I see that its on - and laugh every time! Patti fell asleep but she can some some of the parts of the movie line for line!!!
Me....
Karen? is that you?
Bella, It's never gotten that bad, but I don't want it to either. So very annoying.
I'm back. Jake left to do audio work for some local little garage band around 9 and I didn't expect him home until 2 or 3. Actually, I expected a text letting me know he was going to spend the night there. But nooooo, Mr. Homebody strolls in at 12:15, proclaiming he was bored and if he had to be bored, he'd rather be bored at home. Uh, thanks? So now I'm being treated to a very loud session of him learning to play an electric guitar. To his credit, I'm already recognizing what he's playing two days into it but get a grip, Skip. It's nearly 1am and I'm noise-sensitive. Plus, he's scaring the cats.
Karen? Why the name change?
Ok. Just checked out JM's blog for the first time since she started blogging about Kenya and I'm not loving some of the pictures I see of the people on the trip with them crying holding the children of Kenya. I find it incredibly insulting that someone would have the nerve to cry in front of those people. I am sure they are proud and don't find themselves to be "broken". While I am sure they are grateful for assistance and opportunities afforded by trips such as these, I can't imagine being put in a position to comfort those who are "doing" for you. Am I just reading into this too much? I am bothered.
Mulie, the only thing we've found for fleas that is a sure bet is Revolution. We get them so bad here that even non-pet owners get them...it's awful. The Revolution even takes care of the gross worms your pets can get from fleas, too. We order it online and if you need a link, let me know. Although I hate doing it, sometimes bombing the whole house is in order and then use the Revolution when you bring your pets back in. I hate bugs.
I won't spray inside with the little ones. An exterminator once told me, "as long as they aren't licking the baseboards, they'll be fine!" Have you met my kids? They would not think twice about licking anything! They are 1 and 4! I had to tell them 20 times tonight to stop drinking the bathwater!
Yikes, yes its me - karen - what happened to my Karen name? LOL yikes, i gotta figure out how to fix that don't i?
I've been trying to do my blog differently and actually start to write in it, and apparently I changed ME... be back in a sec - gotta change!! LOL
My house is less than a year old! I will not let these animals ruin it! I should get to ruin it all by myself!
Am I back to my original name?
That was weird!!!
I really want to go to bed, but I have been waiting to skype with my hubby. I know he's still sleeping and it's 4 a freakin pm in the afternoon there!
Ahhh I feel better now - I changed my picture too - which I don't mind, but I wanna be Karen, not "me"
sorry!! Bella how did you figure out it was me?
"Am I just reading into this too much? I am bothered."
Nope, I noticed the same and couldn't express it. You did. The people themselves look happy. They are decently dressed and no one looks to be starving so how insulting and arrogant is it to imply they need help because they aren't living up to the standards *she wants for them? I did notice one requisite picture of a kid with a dirty nose. *eyeroll* Most looked quite clean, cleaner than I've seen her own look on numerous occasions. But in the eyes of the tall, white Christians, they are dark and poor, therefore they are dirty and starving and need "us", as God intended.
Fuck me.
Karen, not Bella, but I knew when you mentioned Patti. Dead giveaway.
Mulie, where is your husband stationed?
He's "deployed" right now.
Oh duh ya i did say Patti huh?
and sorry I thought it was bella that said it!
Its been a LONG week!! TGIF!
I read a bit last night but everyone seemed to be sleeping already! and we've had internet problems and its been on and off.... gonna try to read to catch up tonight but there is SO much to read!!
On an island that is US Territory.
He supposed to go to the mall later for dinner and a movie.
All for vaccinations, health education and affording the women and children opportunity and ways to support themselves, but breaking down because their running water is an old jug hung from a sting? That reaction sickens me. Really.
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