Wednesday, May 12, 2010

12 noon.

There's no blood on the floor, is there?

180 comments:

Really Frugal said...

Thanks, Erin. I want to tell you I think you could write a chapter when the book on internet grace is published.

Robin in Montana said...

repost:

RF - Still thinking about what you said. I agree getting past stuff and moving on is important. It's also important to learn from whatever went down, to not ignore stuff that's been plainly shown to you and not continue to trust and feed people who clearly have nothing but a need to use ohers for their own gain. I think, anyway. Not aimed at you, just thinking out loud here

Erin Lutz said...

Thank you RF. Really.

No blood on my floor b/c I just mopped!!

Tara. said...

News Alert:

I just went trekking through the snow to make sure mama bird was OK. She's still sitting on her eggs, alive and well. I'm really hoping the huge snow that has piled up on the branches above don't take her out when it falls. *fingers crossed*

Really Frugal said...

RiM said . . . not ignore stuff that's been plainly shown to you and not continue to trust and feed people who clearly have nothing but a need to use ohers for their own gain. I think, anyway. Not aimed at you, just thinking out loud here.

I'm more convinced all the time that we can never know who those people might be. IRL I am very trusting. Not sure how much I trust anyone online any more. Even those I *think I *know.

Tara. said...

EL, my guess would be for 2 reasons.

1. MWOP isn't also a chat blog, where a lot of friendships have been built. It's more a central location where some people may know each other from another place, like Daisy. It's "all business" there (at least that how it seemed at those times I'd read there), so there's nothing personal for someone to attack.

2. Whomever runs FWOP clearly has had personal experience with the people that post here at Daisy. At some point, this person/these people were hurt by the group as a whole or by a couple of people, so they made it personal in return.
That's my (un)educated guess anyway.

Shannon said...

RF to be honest I am a very trusting person. I take people at their word and as shocking as it may seem to many I try to look for the good in people. Unfortunately for me when I get shit on enough by the same people over and over again it changes my mind and once it is changed it aint easy to ever get it back.

Robin in Montana said...

RF - That is true, too. And I'm speaking of my experience with Wendy, to be honest, not GM, because I wasn't around for any of that,nor have I been involved in any of those shenanigans in any way. I have seen Wendy use people and I have seen her treat people to their face (well, you know, on the Internet) like she was their best friend and needed them and valued them, all the while bashing them behind their backs in ways that would be incredibly hurtful if they knew. People who, when they stopped serving their purpose to her or didn't play according ot her "rules" were callously and without any emotion, cut from her life withouth further ado. THat's not normal, even in Internet land, for people who are normal. You (generic) *do form bonds, and you *do end up caring for people you view as friends, and jus as IRL it hurts when there is a falling out with a friend, it hurts when you lose an online friend as well. And Wendy either does not *feel that hurt (which is what I'm betting on) or she is so prideful that she refuses to acknolwedge the hurt or any wrongdoing on her part. And I'm not just talking about the situation with Rhys that ended in my banning. And no, I'm not interested in "proving" it. It is what it is, and there are many, many people who had interactions with Wendy in various ways that would back me up on this.

I, too, IRL am very trusting. I am online for the most part as well. I am who I am, I'm not hiding anything about who I am or what I've been up to, any of it. Would I like it all to be aired in a public forum? Hell no. None of us would. It could result in pain and hurt and embarssment for me and my children and the people I love. Why someone would do that to me, or to the people that it has been done to, I truly don't understand. I truly don't. No matter who GM or Wendy or any of those people have hurt, the airing of personal and private information, the sharing of addresses, the posting of hurtful videos, the photographs of kids, the publishing of family obituaries? If any of them stole money from *anyone, or from an organization dedicated to charity, they should be ashamed. All of it is horrible, and shameful, and they ought to be ashamed, all of them who have been involved. Snark is one thing, bitching about someone, calling names even, is different, even if it's not admirable.

That said,

Bri said...

"I know you said that you are not going to engage in conversation, but I have to ask if you think FWOP is going to continue their crusade against this blog?"

I can only say that there is a bigger objective than this site. I had one role and that was to open suspect email. Thats all I can say in public. You folks know where to reach me.

Robin in Montana said...

Bri - I don't know you at all,but given the *incredible amount of shit that has gone down in the last several months, I am curious as hell as to why you'd agree to anonymously open email, especially knowing the paranoia involved? If, as you say, you have been unfairly targeted,and clearly, you've had some shitty things done to you, why would you open yourself up for hte possiblity of more by becoming involved in a crusade that isn't yours? I am curious,and that's all. I don't have an ax to grind with you.

Tara. said...

Bri, I appreciate you coming here and saying what you have said. Have you wondered why your name keeps being brought in to all of these situations? Is it just bad luck that you somehow seem to be part of all the equations? I'm not being snarky, I'm honestly asking what your thoughts are on that.

CPTwife said...

Well, I’m sure everyone is wondering what I have to say. Once I get this posted, I don’t plan on posting again on SIP or OD. I may have to post this in a few parts so please bare with me.

I’m sure everyone has had their fill of the drama and I’m truly sorry for my part in it. As you all know, since you were a member of SIP or you read it through a third party, my motivation to contribute at GMWOP was to get GM to take FWOP down. I really have no personal beef with GM. I don’t like what she has done to others in the past, but I do not have a personal vendetta against her. I think it would be naive to believe that she isn’t more actively involved in FWOP. Even if she only opened email, she knew who was running the site and did nothing to stop it--exactly like what happened with Lyrics. If she was participating to a lesser degree like they claim, I don’t think she would have been willing to allow herself to be crucified on GMWOP. But that is neither here, nor there.

To answer people’s questions about taking GMWOP down: After AP and I exchanged emails, I went to GMWOP, removed all the posts, removed the picture in the title, and posted Cease Fire. My only motivation was to protect my friends and if they didn’t want (or need) my protection, well there was nothing left in it for me. I wanted some time to write the post that I told AP that I would write. One in which I was going to say that we were taking the higher road by closing down the site. Unfortunately I didn’t get that chance because all the posts and the picture in the header had been returned to the site. My cease fire was gone. I was a moderator on GMWOP and I spoke out of turn when I said that I could take the site down because I’m not the owner of the site. If you’ll notice I said I “was” a moderator on GMWOP. I figured I would try again last night to see if I could take the posts down but I have been blocked. I have no access to GMWOP and consequently I am stuck between a rock and a hard place. I knew that W intended on keeping the site up but I had no control over that. I was going to send her the rest of the information I have on GM but I just couldn’t bring myself to do it.

If you will notice, I never posted on GMWOP when FWOP was down. I had much more information on GM but I wasn’t going to use it if my goal had been met. I didn’t feel there was a need to do that. I wasn’t interested in destroying GM, I just wanted FWOP to stop. I realized that this was never, ever going to end when FWOP kept coming back to life. There would be no winner. For this to end, everyone was just going to have to walk away.

I did not like the fact that GM’s children’s pictures and information were used without blurring the identifying information out. I did not post them and I even addressed the issue with W. I was met with resistance and apparently it would stay as is. I did not agree with everything written on GMWOP but I am guilty by association. I believe even war has rules and I didn’t think posting particulars of GM’s children or grandchildren was fair. I addressed the issue of the grandkids but I should have been more proactive in trying to stop the adult children from being posted. I would like to apologize to GM’s daughters for being part of a blog that posted their pictures and information. There were a lot of things that I wish were handled differently, however, I was a moderator and I could only control what I had written. And as of now, I can’t even control that. If I could, I would remove the posts again.

CPTwife said...

Part 2 of 2:

I’m sorry that people were hurt by GMWOP. I thought I was doing something noble and now I can see that it just caused drama and hurt. I’m sorry to the members of SIP who had to read all the drama. I’m sorry to the members of SIP who also post at OD. You were caught right smack in the middle and I apologize for putting you in that position. I’m sorry that someone felt they needed to be a mole and I’m sorry that people were looked at with suspicion by the members. There would have been no reason for suspicion if GMWOP hadn’t been created in the first place and I apologize for my part in that. I especially want to apologize to EL. She didn’t deserve to be accused and banned. I thought it was very unfortunate and I’m sorry that my actions on GMWOP didn’t help the situation.

I was not trying to hide from OD. When I was confronted, I told the truth. I figured the information would be leaked to my fellow Daisies but I didn’t figure that they would be upset. I thought I would be a hero for sticking my neck out. I was wrong. People were scared, hurt, and they thought I was poking GM so she would attack them. I’m sorry if I exacerbated the situation. Please believe me when I say that my intentions were good. I honestly believed that W’s intentions were good as well. Otherwise I would not have teamed up with her. I’m sorry that the Daisies didn’t understand my motivation from the start and there was much speculation. I thought I could show the Daisies that W had a good heart. I thought I could mend fences. I was wrong.

There were some developments that arose last night and I am thoroughly hurt, confused, and feeling a bit like a pawn in a sick and twisted game. I don’t understand what is going on between FWOP and W. Quite frankly, I don’t care because I don’t want this to escalate any further. It is just another example that internet wars can never be won. Innocent bystanders will become casualties all in the name of being “right.”

I hope everyone can forgive me for my part in all of this. I am truly sorry and I’ve learned many great lessons. I know that I need to value my friendships more and not do anything that would put them in jeopardy. I’ve learned to step up and use my voice but be mindful of others toes when I do. I’ve learned that there is nothing to gain by being sneaky--it tarnishes your reputation even when you think you are doing something you feel is right.

I don’t plan on participating on the two blogs any more unless someone speaks directly to me or has a question for me. You can always reach me at my email. I am now walking away...

Take care,

Michelle

(CPTwifeatyahoodotcom)

KaytieJ said...

Mulie - My Orchid bloomed! How are you doing?

My Christmas Cactus bloomed, too :-D

Robin in Montana said...

Michelle:

I don't "know" you really since we didn't interact a whole lot at SIP, but I am very, very sorry how hurt you were by all this, and I am sorry that what you headed into with good intentions ended up hurting you and others. You are an example of what I was talking about a few posts above yours on Daisy about Wendy using people for her own gain and then tossing them aside without any emotion whatsoever once they served their purpose.

I thought what you wrote was very well-written. I am sorry for what has happened, although I do not think Wendy is done,not by a long haul.

KaytieJ said...

RF!!! I've missed you!

Erin - Post Bday Party clean up to do here :-/ Still finding splatters of chocolate frosting on the cabinets. I am such a mess when I bake.

Jill - YAY! 1/2 days and Final Countdown. You have had such a tough year there. Any plans for the summer to celebrate?

Tara. said...

Michelle: I commend you for coming here and owning the part you had. I'm so sorry you were part of a game, I'm so sorry you were hurt. Many of us have been in that place and it's such an uneasy feeling.

Shannon said...

Michelle I sent you an email....

Really Frugal said...

Hi, Kaytie. I am very good at cleaning up chocolate 8)

Michelle, I believe your motives were good.

KaytieJ said...

Michelle -
I do not know you, so excuse me for stepping in, but what you wrote here was very well written. You sound very hurt and I am sorry for that.

Bri said...

Robin / Tara To be honest, I do not follow these forums much. So I didn't care what was said. The internet is the internet. I was (regretfully) part of OHIH. Every negative thing was fallout from that.

I think I've said enough. I applaud AP's request to Won to take the site down. Obviously, she's gone rogue now and with many other names and addresses.

My email has not changed. And I'm not paranoid.

Tara. said...

Totally OT, but where has Heather in Texas been? I miss her. :o(

Jeanette said...

CPT, I just wanted to let you know that I have great respect for you after what you just posted. I have no idea about the goings on at SIP, or what went wrong between FWOP and Wendy. I do know who FWOP is and no amount of denial is going to change my mind on that. I'm sure there are others here who agree. Do I think it's a little strange? Sure do. Do I think it's a big deal? Nope. Stranger things have happened on the internet. I *do think that "FWOP" would do herself a great service if she would go back to writing in her own diary and just let it all die.

And I would also like to reply to something said earlier or maybe last night... about a certain persons full name and address being posted in the early days of Daisy. Before Daisy was a gleam in AP's eye, shit was put on Lyrics. I know who was behind Lyrics and once again, nothing will change my mind about that. Now I don't know if GM stole money from Krista. Krista herself couldn't be trusted so I never formed a solid opinion on that one way or another. I also never cared about the giveaway. I know GM had her own reasons to do that, and JM had reasons as well. I spoke to both of them during that time and cleared things up well enough for me.

Erin Lutz said...

Michelle- I am sorry you were caught up in this. You don't owe me an apology at all. Nothing you did or said caused Wendy to react the way she did.

KaytieJ said...

SW - I have tried my dh's BlackBerry and I do like it for business type stuff. However, for myself, I find that I like the iPhone better. Very user friendly. I haven't used the 'Droid, yet, but have heard good things about it.

Deb said...

Michelle - Wow, and you have the balls of an elephant ::trying to lighten up the mood::

I sent you an e-mail.

Deb said...

Hi RF!

Deb said...

Kaytie - my cell phone is a go for an upgrade in July and I'm getting a Droid, I've heard really good things about them too!

Jeanette said...

I have a Palm Pixi and I love it. My first one was actually stolen and I replaced it with the same phone. It multi-tasks and it's got so many applications and patches that I never get bored. It's completely customizable and I highly recommend it.

Jill said...

I now I can't hide my head in the sand about all of this, but I'm having a hard time processing.

I'm suffering from some serious stimulus overload both here and IRL.

Robin in Montana said...

Michelle - Just talked to AP on a text, and she says she won't be here for awhile to actually respond with all she wants to say, but she wanted to say she definitely thinks you were taken in by Wendy, and you're definitely Daisy material in her book. :-)

Erin Lutz said...

<--- has a shitty phone because I drop them all.the.time.

Jill said...

CPT I'm sorry that you were caught in the middle of all of this. You were just trying to give FWOP a taste of their own medicine and it turned into something else.

Jill said...

Oh, and I have a Palm Pre and love it.

Robin in Montana said...

EL - Me, too. I once dropped mine in the horse water trough. Which apparently doesn't really work that well. I also dropped Kelly's work phone in a drink one time -- it was an *accident! -- which is hard to explain to bosses, apparently. (It wasn't on work time, for those taking screen shots and saving informaiton. @@)

Really Frugal said...

My phone makes phone calls. That's all. Since I never go any place and we don't get a signal at home, it probably doesn't matter.

Jill said...

Mine does everything but make coffee. If I had an iPhone there would be an app for that.

Really Frugal said...

Damn, if I could get one that makes coffee . . .

Robin in Montana said...

RF - I have a man that makes coffee. And I can push his buttons. Just as good as a phone!

Jeanette said...

Oh Jill don't you love it? The pixi is the same software as the Pre, it just doesn't have wifi and isn't a slider. Do you use Homebrew apps? They are free and if you install preware on your phone, you can get new ones while you are stuck in traffic! I heart my phone. I wouldn't trade it for an iphone if someone offered to give it to me for free.

And to those that often drop their phone in water... if you take the back off and set your phone in a bowl of rice and then put a lid on it, it draws the water out and usually will save the phone. Salt also works but the clean up is messier.

Shannon said...

I have a Samsung Moment...it is a Droid phone....I love it!!!!!

Jeanette you forgot the most important part of saving your phone from water....DO NOT TRY TO TURN IT ON....get that battery out right away. I was also told by the phone peeps that you can wrap it in socks and put it in the dryer for a few minutes

Jill said...

Janette I love my apps! :)

Robin in Montana said...

Oh, good to know, Shannon and Jeannette!

Jeanette said...

I have an app that is "The Easy Button." It solves no purpose really, other than it's funny. When I open it my screen looks like the Easy Button on the commercials and when you push it, it says "That was Easy" in a real goofy voice. What can I say? I enjoy the small things.

Jill said...

I have the "That's what she said" app.
Equally as useless and equally as funny.

Deb said...

If you drop your phone in liquid, be it water *or alcohol ::coughRiMcough:: take the battery out and put the phone in rice. It will absorb the moisture.

Shannon said...

I have the Zombie run game/app.....it is a blast but a little dangerous trying to avoid zombies...cars....and oh yeah cops based on what the phone says :)

Deb said...

RF - I have a phone that just makes phone calls too. If anyone sends me a text, I curse them immensely because it takes me *forever to hit the numbers for the alpha letters to write a text!

I just want a new phone to be cool, like everyone else! Oh, and to surf the internet on long drives.

Really Frugal said...

RiM, LOL. I push buttons with mine, too, but not such a good thing.

Creepy Mommy said...

Oh, holy hell was that a lot of reading?

Ummm, ya.

I'm going back to Creepy Mommy. I didn't do anything wrong. I didn't steal any money from Krista, I have my records (which, coincidentally I *didn't* shred) I'll gladly share with those on the list, they can check check back against their own statements to see I'm telling the truth. Done with that.

From the very start of fwop I was concerned it was someone from the secret santa. From the very first picture I made a comment that maybe it was someone who had gotten our address' back in December. If that is infact the case, then Krista was right. Back at the beginning of the Secret Santa Krista sent me an email that said among other things that she was concerned with everyone giving out names and address', she didn't think it was safe. She was right.

I will bite my tongue, because what I think about certain individuals that seemed to be involved in this whole debacle isn't very nice and shouldn't be said on the internet. See that? I'm playing nice, but I'm fucking pissed.

I can't believe I missed all this last night! I was up, but I was watching freaky ass Mullholland Drive. I will NEVER understand that movie. NEVER!

Jill said...

My husband can't make coffee if his life depended on it.
Where are the coffee filters? How much water? How many scoops of coffee? Where is the coffee?
Same questions every single time.

Deb said...

My husband is the latte man. He makes me one every morning. I love that guy! And lattes, because ever since I was pregnant with my first, I can't drink coffee. Seriously, and I was a 3 cup a day coffee drinker.

Shannon said...

CM I have to chuckle....honestly most of the donations that became a question were after you had turned over things and no longer had a hand it any of it.

Jill said...

I have a serious coffee problem.
I'm talking 64oz/day coffee problem.

Jeanette said...

Ohh Jill, I had that app on the phone that was stolen. Thanks for reminding me!

CM, I remember you being the one to start with the donations. I also remember that throughout it all, someone else was continually speaking up and offering to take over. You didn't have the funds for very long at all and I don't think anyone feels that you stole anything.

As I said, I don't think we can safely assume that anything was stolen. Krista wasn't a reliable source either.

Creepy Mommy said...

Shannon- I know that, but these randoms keep asking, well what about the first person who collected the money, so this is th elast time I'll say anything about that. If anyone still questions the donations they made, they can email me creepymommy(at)yahoo.com :)

Shannon said...

Do you know how obsessive I feel sometimes? I just went through my entire inbox and moved all the emails I have had regarding this stuff to its own folder....god next thing you know I will be figuring out how to track IP addresses LOL

Creepy Mommy said...

Jeanette, I think that's a completely fair argument. Krista missed the mark many times, in my opinion. Who knows, who knows.

I just can't believe it all came to a head and I missed it! I'm glad AP addressed this directly, I think it will definitely hewlp in squashing the whole matter.

tumbleweedgirl said...

jill

Rock makes me coffee all the time with the starbucks machine. i found it at a garage sale for $30. it makes lattes and steams stuff too

Creepy Mommy said...

And I think it's a little creepy to log people's address' and other personal information. Pyscho, much? I mean, you know, for WHOEVER did it. :)

Shannon said...

CM I hear ya....I dont think I could be that obsessive about anything....hell the only reason I have emails from so long back is because I am horrible at hitting the delete button after I read an email LOL

Shannon said...

TWG can I just tell you I am insanely jealous that for one you have a starbucks machine and that you got it for only 30 bucks!!!! I would never sleep if I had one of those :)

Margaret said...

Shannon - at the moment you feel a need to record or save what someone says that's a red flag that you should not be associating with that person :)

Shannon said...

SHIT I am skrewed then.....You all FWoP was right about me you may want to take the opportunity to run now.

Jeanette said...

I actually feel sorry for someone that feels they need to constantly check IP addresses and save information "just in case". Can you imagine living like that, feeling as if you need to constantly keep track of how you can get a person before they get you first? No thanks.

Robin in Montana said...

Deb - I appreciate that tip,although being a rare drinker myself, I'll probably not ever need to *use it. But thank you, nonetheless. ::looks away:::

RF -- hee! He needed some buttons pushed this morning. A PMSing warthog would have had *nothing on his mood! lol.

Robin in Montana said...

Reading back.

I am a little bit green over the Starbucks machine myself! I <3 garage sales and I tend to have to look around and see what's been thrown out at the dump when we go. I can't help myself. Kelly calls me the bag lady. (FTR I've never found anything good at the dump, but I know someday I will -- I know what kind of stuff I throw out in a fit of cleaning frenzy!)

Shannon said...

It is a sad and scary place. I mean we already know of people who literally have note cards and note books full of all kinds of info on people they have come across online....it does freak me out really.

I will just reiterate that my inbox is in its state due to sheer laziness :) I actually moved them all over so that I could go through them easier and get rid of the stuff that doesnt matter and has no keep worthy info :)

Anonymous said...

The Incriminating Notebooks Of Info. Sounds like a movie in the Harry Potter series.

Southern Woman said...

Michelle, I join with the others in applauding you for posting here. Your explanation seemed reasonable and sincere and I take it at face value. I appreciate that you tried to take GMWOP down when AP asked you. I do have questions in my own mind whether you and others on SIP should have realized before then that innocent bystanders were getting flak from it, but I can certainly understand getting "caught up in" something and letting it go on longer than it should. You are owning your actions and that is commendable.

I also want to say that I know from discussions with AP that she agonized over mentioning you publicly. She likes you a lot and did not want to resort to a course of action that could cause you problems. Not meaning to speak for AP, but just wanted to vouch for the fact that it was a hard decision for her to involve you. In my experience, AP generally falls back to honesty and openness being the best approach. I think she was right, and that this has been a healthy exchange for all. If not a comfortable one.

I hope that you will decide to come back to Daisy and post in the future. You will be welcomed.

Creepy Mommy said...

I hope nobody was irrevocably hurt in this whole mess.

Is it just me, or is it easier to be angry about something said or done, when you can put a face to the action?

Really Frugal said...

I keep emails in folders just like I've always kept letters tied with ribbons. But the ones I've gotten are not conspiratorial, mostly just chatty. If someone is keeping a spreadsheet or notecards, that would be concerning. Though with my memory it might not be bad. I forget whose kid has what illness this week and which husbands are looking for jobs and who likes boiled beef heart. All the important stuff.

RiM is a dump(ster) diver! My husband takes things to the recycling center and often brings home more than he took. He's even found furniture there, and once a book of coupons with $5 tucked in it.

Jill said...

Shannon I have a butt-load of e-mails saved from here and there and everywhere too. I've saved the recipes and links and e-mail addresses.
IP addesses? I wouldn't know what to do with them.

Deb said...

Ladies, I must leave to go get my wee ones! See you all later.

Robin in Montana said...

RF-- See? You can find good things! lol.

Deb said...

<---joining in on the "I save e-mails just because I'm too lazy to delete them" boat.

Bye!

Creepy Mommy said...

Not to bring the mood down to much, but I realized that I had practically every email my ex-boyfriend who committed suicide two years ago had ever sent me. It was kind of comforting. I never delte them either, same withFacebook messages. I also have one from a dear friend who also passed away that same year. Too wierd? Too creepy?

Anemone Pie said...

I'm baaaaaaaaack. ;-)
I don't know what y'all do when your internet explodes, but I go shoe shopping!

Michelle, I believe you...I really do. I wasn't sure until I read what you wrote and I believe every word you said. As far as I'm concerned, you'll always be welcome here and I'm so sorry you were hurt too. I'm also sorry for my contribution to it.

Bri, there's no love lost between us and that's fine but I want to apologize, too, for the fact names were discussed on here in the past. We're human, we get caught up in stuff and even if someone else is doing it to us first, we ought to have taken the high road when it comes to personal info, even if we didn't repeat it all. We didn't do that and I apologize for it. And if anyone is pissed that I've said this to Bri, so be it. I don't much care, it's the right thing to do.

Now, how is everyone today? Are we all doing alright? Chris, you okay out there?

Tara. said...

If anyone needs something to distract them for a few minutes, watch this kid. He's in SIXTH grade and he's freaking amazing.

http://www.youtube.com/user/greyson97

Shannon said...

I dont think it is weird or creepy at all...they are a connection and a link....you wouldnt throw out letters from them.

Hell I still have a huge shoe box full of the letters my husband sent me while in jail....that is because he said things in there and changed while he was in there that sealed my heart with love for him :)

KaytieJ said...

AP - What kind of shoes are you shopping for?

Jill said...

I'm a pack rat.
One day you might see me on Hoarders.

Tara. said...

Shannon, it's one thing to keep things for sentimental value. It's another to keep them so you can hurt someone with info.

Tara. said...

I ♥ Greyson. I want to put him in my pocket and take him home.

KaytieJ said...

CM - I don't think it is creepy. I have not deleted my mom's e-mails.

Anemone Pie said...

Kaytie, I got some sandals...I may never wear them but they were too pretty to pass up. They just whispered that they were supposed to come home with me and who was I to deny them? Let me see if I can find them online.

tumbleweedgirl said...

ap

i'm glad you said it (:

shannon,

i do save emails. i filter things and save them. i've got stuff from friends, mom, dad, sisters, the love-o-my-life, etc.

each list is filtered into its own folder. i often cruise delete, but save random things that i want to think about.

i'm just weird like that.

i also save odd scraps of paper. Rock, now, he saves bits of wire. (:

Tara. said...

AP, can't wait to see your new shoes! I love shoes, especially sandals!

Shannon said...

My husband is a good influence on me because if I didnt have him I would probably already have been featured on hoarders :)

I am one of those who looks at everything for its potential use in the future.

I am glad to know I am not alone in keeping things like emails and letters. I dont ever intend to use such things to ever rip anyone else apart ever, I just have them for being able to remember stuff that mostly.

KaytieJ said...

Does anyone remember I bought that "Melt Soap" making kit? Well, I finally opened the box and NO DIRECTIONS in there how to make it. I went to look for my e-mail receipt for the website. GONE! Thank goodness I saved the box that had the website blazed all over it :-D

AP - Ooooh! Would love to see the sandals if you find it online. Glad you got out and bought something pretty for yourself.

tumbleweedgirl said...

ap

i'm a sock kind of person. i love crazy socks, wild socks. then i love to mismatch them. (:

Robin in Montana said...

Just a PSA.

The Spice Hunter "Wild Mushroom Risotto"?

Is nasty. N.a.s.t.y.

That is all.

Jeanette said...

AP, I think you have handled all this in the best way possible. I love your ability to step back and look at the situation in search of what's right, instead of just doing what is going to have the most benefit for yourself. You have made my girl crush for you grow even more. Keep it up and I'm going to dye my hair dark and hunt down a cop uniform on Ebay. You've been warned.

Anemone Pie said...

Kaytie, let us know how the soap-making goes. Beth and I tried it once and it was a lot of fun! Messy, but fun!

I found my shoes. Look how cute! I was wanting to get a few lightweight dresses for summer and needed pretty but basic sandals to go with them. I guess the shoes came first. ;-) I'm a sucker for most anything by Aigner anyway, so that didn't help and I didn't even have to feel guilty since I had a gift card.

http://www1.macys.com/catalog/product/index.ognc?ID=459591&CategoryID=30462

Margaret said...

I love Etienne Aigner shoes!

Tara. said...

Ohhhh, those are super cute AP!!

Anonymous said...

Those are very cute, AP :)

Southern Woman said...

Those are cute, AP! I can't wear any shoes that go between my toes. No flip flops for me. The feeling of something between my toes is freaky.

Southern Woman said...

I was looking at Etienne Aigner purses online the other day. There was a yellow one that was to die for. And several other cute ones.

Really Frugal said...

The sandals are cute but the description is even better - "Greek goddess mode"

Shannon said...

HAHAHAHA

SW I am the same exact way!!! I always want sandals like that but I know for a fact that they will make me insane going between my toes.

But they are so super cute.

Really Frugal said...

SW, my daughter the flipflop queen will soon hear that I am not the only one with the between the toe aversion. Thank You! I am not alone.

Robin in Montana said...

I love flip flops, but I don't think I could wear those, between the in between the toe thing, the strap down the middle,and then around my ankle. I'd be *all fidgety!

Jill said...

I love flip flops.

That is all.

KaytieJ said...

AP - Sexy shoes! I like them because they are elegant and simple. BTW - I saved the site - might have to do some shoe shopping myself. Serious lack of shoes.

Robin in Montana said...

Jill - Have you had Havainas? Best little slip on every day flip-flop ever. LIke walking on a marshmallow. ;-D

Really Frugal said...

I am not a fan of shoes in general. While those sandals are elegant, they have an adge with that chain. They are not shoes for sissies.

Anemone Pie said...

Kaytie, I think I saw Macy's is having free shipping today on the main page. :-D I'm excited no one is looking at my shoes and trying to be polite...lol, that happens sometimes since I like odd shoes.

Really Frugal said...

adge=edge. How did I do that?

Robin in Montana said...

RF- I just read that with a southern accent in my head. Those shoes have an a-dge. :nod:

laura said...

Decide to post since al of the stuff seems finished. I'm a totally conflict avoidant person. I run and hide until it is over. Although I'm very curious about the conflict. Can I ask a few questions?????
I've been reading, but somehow I'm lost.

Also I hate flip flops b/c I feel like my toes are being violated.

Shannon said...

LOL Laura you should know that you can ask questions....:)

laura said...

Is Kristin around and if not has anyone heard from her? She was always so kind to me.

Is Bri friends with GM? Bri had some spunk on other sites.

Has anyone seen the cleaning fairy or the potty training super hero? If so send them my way.

Jill said...

RiM I have not tried them yet. Will look for them though. I'm partial to Old Navy flip flops just because of the price.

Shannon said...

The Bri that posted here today is no one other then GM.

There is also Brie who posts on MWoP and such places.

Robin in Montana said...

Laura! Hi! HOw are the gentlemen!

Bri is GM. Unless you're thinking of Brie, then that's different. :-)

Kristin is around sometimes, but not much lately. If you don't mind, I'll tell her you asked about her, I know she would like that. :-)

The cleaning fairy has been absent here, and the potty training thing has not been on my list of things I need to worry about for some years now, so I have no info on that.

How are you?

Southern Woman said...

Life is not fair for us spinstery types. Story on Elena Kagan cut and pasted below:

The issue of Elena Kagan's sexuality continues to receive a great deal of under-the-radar attention, so much so that some of her friends who know her relationship history have decided to speak publicly.

Kagan's law school roommate and close friend Sarah Walzer told Politico's Ben Smith, "I've known her for most of her adult life and I know she's straight. She dated men when we were in law school, we talked about men -- who in our class was cute, who she would like to date, all of those things. She definitely dated when she was in D.C. after law school, when she was in Chicago - and she just didn't find the right person."

Another friend, former New York Governor Eliot Spitzer, a member of Kagan's social circle at Princeton University, wanted to make the same point as Walzer. "I did not go out with her, but other guys did," he said in an email Tuesday night. "I don't think it is my place to say more."

Likewise, in a post on Monday, Jamison Foser of the progressive group Media Matters for American challenged writers who had criticized the White House for not being more forthright about Kagan's sexuality.

"This is all quite ridiculous," Foser wrote. "The White House simply and clearly said the report was false and that Kagan is not gay." He also took issue with the claim that, by denying the rumors, the White House was somehow treating homosexuality as a "smear."

These complaints of "unseemly" denials are reminiscent of hand-wringing during the 2008 presidential campaign about whether it was appropriate to refer to the false claims that Barack Obama is Muslim as "smears." There is nothing wrong with being Muslim -- but of course those were smears. For one thing, they were false. For another, they falsely portrayed Obama as a liar. That's enough to qualify as a "smear" right there. But you also have to consider the intent, and likely effect, of the claims. Those alleging Obama to be Muslim certainly meant to harm him, and it isn't hard to imagine that they did so. Calling that a smear, then seems perfectly reasonable -- indeed, the claims smeared Muslims, too, as they implied that being Muslim is bad.

Likewise, you don't have to think there's anything bad about being gay in order to think that Elena Kagan is being smeared. Noting that "People who know Kagan very well say she is not gay," The Atlantic's Marc Ambinder explained last month that the subjects of baseless gay rumors are "victims, not because being gay labeled ... falsely or otherwise, is shameful, but because the intention behind the labeling is often nefarious and stereotypical." And, contra Triplett, it is clear that many conservatives are spreading rumors about Kagan for nefarious purposes. In doing so, they are smearing her -- as well as people who are gay.

Southern Woman said...

Hi Laura! It's good to see you here! How *are the gentlemen?

laura said...

All is well in my world....except the gentlemen are not really napping and I feel like I'm dodging grenades anytime after 4PM, its one long tantrum until bed time.

Was today the first time that Bri= GM? Did people know this before? I had always liked Bri, but I guess that she rubbed some people the wrong way. I just do not have the guts to let things fly like she does.

Robin in Montana said...

Jill -- look like at TJ Maxx or Ross or those kinds of stores. They're just flat, basics like Old Navy ones, but they're soooo much more comfortable and cushion-ey.

Margaret said...

Isn't that horrible SW!

Anemone Pie said...

Hi, Laura!

And I still think she's gay. Hell, people who knew me years ago would say the same things.
And really, having Eliot Spitzer defend you about sexual matter? That's worrisome....funny, too.

Robin in Montana said...

It is horrible, SW.

Jill said...

laura it is how she signed her e-mails (Bri).
We are having nap problems too. Bed jumping or singing for an hour or more. Fun times.

RiM I will do that.

Southern Woman said...

LOL re Spitzer defending her. I will refrain from ranting about why on earth it should matter whether she's gay, because I'm pretty sure most everyone here agrees that it shouldn't.

As a middle aged woman who has never been married, it also pisses me that some people view that as some sort of defect. If she was unhappily married to a dude, there would be no issue. But she's suspect if she's never been married.

Robin in Montana said...

I guessin the end I don't get why it matters (I mean, I "get" all the arguments, but it's so stupid) if she's gay or not. If it's a moral issue, then we need to start routing anyone in public office of any kind whose ever had an affair, or ever had premarital sex, etc.,etc., etc.

Jill said...

laura it is how she signed her e-mails (Bri).
We are having nap problems too. Bed jumping or singing for an hour or more. Fun times.

RiM I will do that.

blogger is being a little bitch.

laura said...

I'm sorry to ask for the recap, but I'm totally confused or taken by the dishonesty of the internet.



THe (Bri?) I'm thinking of said she has small children and a husband who is a lawyer. So am I totally confused with the Brie on Fwop?

Hello AP, SW, RIM, CM, Shannon, Jill, and all my other old friends. Thjings have just been busier than usual and as I said conflict makes me crazy.

Robin in Montana said...

*guessing. I hate this keyboard.

Anemone Pie said...

Oh, it doesn't *matter if she's gay. I'm just nosy about if I'm right!

Margaret said...

Laura - you are not the only one confused by the dishonesty of the internet.

You are thinking of Brie who posts on mwop and sometimes here.

Shannon said...

Laura it is really nice to see you again. I have to bet that the gentlemen are getting to be big boys now arent they?

Really Frugal said...

Laura, it is confusing. Brie is a pretty blond mom married to a lawyer who has posted here a few times and elsewhere. She is opposed to FWOP. And she has a name like SpaLadyBrie in some places. Bri is one of the names used by GM, and has been since OHIH times. :::Checking my note cards:::

Robin in Montana said...

AP - well, I'd be lying if I said I wasn't nosy, too. I'm nosy about all things.

Tara. said...

I hate politics and I really don't need to know who is gay and who isn't. Why does that always come up in the media? If she was tall, slender with big boobs and blond hair, nobody would even mention her sexuality. Talk about stereotypes!

Tara. said...

I don't think Bri ever went by Bri on any of the blogs either. Her screen name was always GrammieMommy, wasn't it?

Southern Woman said...

Oh, I'm okay with the nosy. It's the right wingers trying to make something of it that gets my goat.

Robin in Montana said...

Tara -- Psst, AP, Karen,and Chris are (::whispers::) *gay. I know!

Southern Woman said...

Tara, good point. And as someone neither tall, slender, nor blonde, that bugs me.

I've never been bugged by thinking people might question my own sexuality though, for some reason.

Shannon said...

Robin they are not they are BLIND!!!!

laura said...

Shannon the gentlemen are 2.5 and 21 pounds of fun and energy. They are starting to venture out of their comfort zones and today one got bit at the gym for about the third time. I can count all of the teeth he has on my child's arm. I actually felt bad for the mom of the biter. Heck mine thinks that the biter loves him.

What is up with your crew, are they cleaning up any better than when you went on your tirade a few mothes ago?

Tara. said...

*whispers* I know RiM! ;o)

SW: I'm not tall or slender or blond either, but mine isn't questioned either. Maybe it's the 4 kids and husband that are always hanging around me. Maybe?

Robin in Montana said...

Shannon-- you are *right! My bad! It's okay to disciminate against gay people, but not blind. ::nods:::

Really Frugal said...

Shannon, I think it can *cause blindness, can't it?

It bugs me that I am not tall, slender, nor blonde, too.

Tara. said...

I thought that the big naughty "M" deed caused blindness.

Anonymous said...

Hairy palms, Tara.

Really Frugal said...

Yes, Tara, they both do. Anything not for procreation.

Tara. said...

Hairy palms? I've never heard of that one. I'm fairly certain my husbands Grandma told him once that it caused blindness. She wanted him to be a Priest (boy, did I ruin that plan!) and she told him he couldn't be a Priest (or an alter boy) if he was blind.

Decisions, Decisions.

laura said...

I thought that it would fall off.

Southern Woman said...

"Maybe it's the 4 kids and husband that are always hanging around me. Maybe?" Maybe, Tara. Just maybe.

Robin in Montana said...

I'm tall and blonde. :::sucks in stomach:::

Tara. said...

Who else misses updates from Matt Logelin? I mean, geez. It's not like he's busy writing a book or anything.

Southern Woman said...

Robin, you're adorable and straight. No debating that!

Tara. said...

I'm obsessing over this bird, like she's my child. I just don't want anything to happen to her little babies. The branch she is on is still questionable.

Shannon said...

Laura....I cant say they are cleaning any more then they were before but they are making less of a mess if that makes sense?

Josh is FINALLY back to work. He got a hold of his boss about a month ago telling he that he really needed to get back to work mostly to get his child support paid..it was bugging him not being able to pay it. His boss told him to come in and apparently they had just gotten started on a big job for a local PD. BUt he works and that makes us happy.

Tara. said...

Look how her nest is tipping! I'm skeered.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1066/4601678753_64b95c1cf2_b.jpg

Shannon said...

Oh Tara the snow is going to fall off the branches and send them flying through the air....oh it makes me scared for them

Tara. said...

I know Shannon, and there's more snow coming tonight. :o(

Robin in Montana said...

If I get nominated for that judge thingy (hee) Ihope they don't make me wear a Peter Pan collar. I could never look snexy in that. Also, how do you guys feel about cowboy boots (I'd buy new ones, kind of sexy ho cowboy boots) under a judicial robe?

Anonymous said...

Can you prop up that branch somehow? She's listing to starboard, Captain!

Robin in Montana said...

Awww,that poor birdie!

Shannon said...

Tara I have to figure out how to get to your house.....we have to save the babies!!!

Tara. said...

I'm having total dejavu here with RiM and Bella's comment. Weird.

Boots under a robe are alright with me!

Bella, I don't know. I could try. I'm afraid if I messed with it at all, she'd fall. Her nest wasn't in the best of places to begin with, but it's really bad now.

I'll see if I can figure it out. I'm off to pick up kids and all that stuff. Bye!

Heather said...

Just jumping in for a second...

Wow mega reading and UGH. I guess in a way it's good that I've not been too active anywhere since OHIH. But still...I gotten to know people, friends were made and all of this is really pretty crappy to find out some are *not* sincere, etc.

I don't really know what to say...didn't know GMWOP existed, think FWOP is weird as hell and obvious to who has a part in it, albeit a little bigger in my mind that what was shared. I guess I've been kicked out of SIP, as I'm not longer able to log in. And that's fair as I wasn't regularly keeping in touch.

I am still a bit irritated at the whole donations to Krista thing. I donated more than I really should have at the time, but that's on me. However, it really upsets me to think that it was not all given to Krista who at the time really needed it more. I know that CM had nothing to do with it, I've never thought otherwise. But between Krista and GM, I guess we'll never know the whole story. In the end it has made me a whole lot more cautious about who I donate money too. Which I guess is a loss for those in need, not me, and that's just sad.

As for OD and Fellowship, no problems here...you all are funny and friendly and I'm glad that I've gotten to know y'all. Even if I don't keep up more than just reading blogs these days.

The worst thing though, again is not knowing who to trust. I hate that! I hate being too trusting.

Heather said...

As I look back, too many typos. Oops. And to think I "proof read" it first. LOL

Creepy Mommy said...

HEATHER! Oh em gee!

Thanks for backing me, sistah.

Muliebrity said...

Oprah is never dieting again. Again.

Creepy Mommy said...

Oh, Oprah. That's one crzazy lady. She's got more money than God, she can do or not do any damn thing she wants. I envy her for that. I do not envy those waddle-y upper arms, yowza!

Margaret said...

Good evening daisies - I've got a cold!!!

Margaret said...

Creepy - she said one time on her show that she never uses the same sheets twice and they are like a zillion threat count. I bet her maid has a warehouse full of sheets!

Creepy Mommy said...

Margaret, you sound so happy about it.

tumbleweedgirl said...

whew. i'm done with the shoot. i narrowed it from 294 images to 143. i think that's pretty good. i should have probably weeded it down more.

but i'm done. i've been picking over it for days.

Margaret said...

Those were angry!!!s

Creepy Mommy said...

Margaret- Can you imagine a world where you never use the same bedsheets twice? I mean, it sounds great and all, I guess, but how incredibly wasteful!!!

Creepy Mommy said...

And I meant you sounded so happy about your cold, all exclamation poit-y and all. :)

Creepy Mommy said...

*point-y

Can I just say, I feel sooo much better posting as myself, Creepy Mommy as opposed to Regina. I mean, Regina was cool and all, but I felt like such an imposter. Stupid blogs getting everyone down. I want Kristin back!

Margaret said...

Having an RP and an RF would have been way too confusing!

Southern Woman said...

Kristin's awesome.

Southern Woman said...

Whine alert: I'm starving and I don't want to have to wait 2.5 hours to eat dinner with friends I'm meeting for dinner and I don't want to eat dinner with them anyway. Not feeling it and want to cancel.

Anemone Pie said...

*** unless I screwed it up last night, there's probably a new post up now ***

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