Monday, August 2, 2010
A dedication to our favorite mommy blogger
"They're gonna get you. They dont forget you." What ya gonna do when this big lie catches up to you????
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"They're gonna get you. They dont forget you." What ya gonna do when this big lie catches up to you????
the daisy rules
- Oopsie Daisy
- Everyone is welcome! The only real rules here are no spamming shit and no posting personal addresses, phone numbers or other similar info. I don't need that kind of stress. That's it, although it could change if someone gets creative or something. If you don't like what is said here, you can: 1) Say so; 2) Hold it in and stew on it; 3. Address it privately to the person who said it; 4) Snark about it to your friends; 5) Leave. Don't bother me with it, I don't care and I won't get involved. I might, however, talk about you behind your back or post your email/message to me on here. *grins* Them's the rules...all of them. Have fun!
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«Oldest ‹Older 1 – 200 of 216 Newer› Newest»So now looking back it is pretty interesting that not only did we, the naysayers, notice that a certain someone, *cough*JM*cough*, look like she was pregnant a month before she would have actually been pregnant, nor did she have serious baby fever at the same time, nor did she have how many posts that were hinting and alluding that she was going to make a pregnancy announcement about a month before she actually did but it looks like she lied when she said she wasnt pregnant then. I think I speak for everyone when I say I hope this wasnt part of the sightseeing events in Boston.
I think it would be pretty easy to forget bc pills. Think about how she lost everything else: contact solution, pacifiers, phone chargers, etc.
Tammi, here you go if you want to check it out. It's pretty interesting the stuff that comes up about JM and her lies. http://mckmamawithoutpity.blogspot.com/
Mulie, that's true but that was in the time frame that allll she could talk about was having another baby, all while Stellan was "dying". That makes it seem not so accidental.
Good song, Shannon. ;-)
She isnt on BC if I recall.....they believe that if it is meant to be it will be. What ticks me off is the fact that she was called out about it, she lied about it....people who were her "friends" pointed it out.....but what this *could mean is that this baby was conceived either while Stellan was in the hospital or in the week before or after.
She owes me nothing I expect nothing from her I just find it pretty damn low to be *so worried about your child yet you can conceive another.
I don't think Stellan's situation was as critical as she led everyone to believe, and she knew it, and was fine with leaving him alone to do extra-curricular activities with RV.
I agree totally Deb. She has always been good at inflating the truth to make it bigger then reality. Honestly as I was reading her posts from the last few days and such the song I put on this post just kept playing through my mind.
I think what has happened here is that due to her inflation and outright lying has just managed to put another notch in the belt. I expect nothing else from her but dammit it is a bit nice to see comments so far down because it just makes me think more and more people are having AHHH HAAAA moments. Now I dont want to see her vanish from the face of the earth but I think that she could still manage to *keep readers and get readers back if she quite deceiving them.
I agree with Deb. And if that's the case, that was a shitty thing to do to all these people who got so caught up in it all and had the prayer chains going and were worried sick he was going to die before they could get back from picking their kids up at school. While that is weird as hell in my book, it didn't deserve the lies and worry.
Sex can be a stress reliever and they were under A lot, a lot of stress. wink. wink.
And apparently the money side of her blog is bigger then the family side of her blog since it seems at least every other post has a give away mixed into it.
"Sex can be a stress reliever and they were under A lot, a lot of stress. wink. wink."
Well, I suppose it's a better option than something that results in the cops coming and someone going to jail...
It maybe a good stress reliever and I guess everyone is different but I already know for a fact that if one of my kids is facing anything that involves going under the knife sex is the LAST thing on my mind.
Exactly, they have clearly learned from past mistakes. Clearly.
Ah, Mulie, your optimism is...amusing. ;-)
I hate to leave this lively discussion, but I must leave work now! I'll check in a bit later, time permitting, before we take off for another family adventure. have a good afternoon!
LOL no kidding......lies and deceptions and sexual pleasures must always trump the "right" thing to do HAHAHAHA
You have a good day of work Deb and if we dont see you before have a great adventure.
So McFlurry, mature lungs and all, is on his way any guesses on his size?
I can see having sex at a time of stress - but why lie about it? I think there are 3 groups of commenters left - those that are new and haven't caught on yet, those that need her to make their blogs or business successful, and those that are so trusting they could never see through the madness. That said, I love a good M&M McFlurry so I shall toast to the babe's birth when he/she is born :)
ell, let's give her credit - this one is set up quite well for her and/or the baby to have serious, on-going medical problems. She has her bases covered quite nicely.
http://www.mypublisher.com/?e=OHm3Q8zJl3TleomPs-gWd9SqOyhVz7CV&_mp=yh0uNO0ckgg4bSDiqJuW6KzXweej9VDP%0A
Thought you might like to see a coffee table book I just put together. I think it looks pretty cool. :)
And for some reason I see no posts on that blog...
Tammi, that's really nice and I do like the photography. It makes people and things look natural, just prettier. Good job!
Not sure why MWOP isn't working for you, sorry!
Those books are really neat. It will come back looking like a hard cover coffee table book. I believe it's 50 pgs. And they are a nice size, 12x15 1/2. I just had them change the cover slightly, when I got the preview I noticed the C in Cameron on the cover was slightly off. I almost had a small heart attack. LOL
I will try that link again..wierd.
And the link for the photo book won't work now. I just got an email saying they took it down, while I fix that C problem. Sheesh, that damn bo0k took me almost 3 hrs to do!
Are you a photographer, Tammi? I noticed LisAP has mentioned you and photography at the same time several times.
Mulie...my husband is. I assist him, and then do all the back end stuff. Like making albums. He has a normal full time job, that is our side business. It emables me to stay home. We have a great time doing weddings together. Sort of a date night...and it's free food! LOL
Well there I feel like a good human being today. Everything that I had left from the yard sale went to Catholic Community Services....I love them they dont sell anything so the people that really need the basics are given the basics.
And imagine that JM has a baby that is the size of a full-term baby without issues....Yeah dont tell me you are 5 weeks early hun I mean even with GD that baby was perfect.
Can we just learn the name already and quit clicking? damn. I'm pretty sure it's going to end with an "n" sound-ish.
Anyone else thing Bill Clinton looked kind of manorexic at Chelsea's wedding?
There's still no name? I swear, aren't people feeling like idiots to keep clicking? Step away, go tend to your own family...whatever the kid is named, he'll still be named that tomorrow.
Mulie, I noticed that about Bill. It was more than just losing weight - he looked like someone with health issues.
Well, I'm alone tonight so I'm having Totino's pizza rolls, salad and beer for dinner. I never fix the good stuff when he's home.
We just set off a bunch of fireworks for Dan's birthday!
Bill Clinton does not look well at all. I hope Chelsea has a happy life with her husband. I felt so sorry for her when they were going through the Monica troubles.
Lachlan
Can't say I'm a fan of her naming style. Not my kid though so whatever.
Hello Jill. How is the potty training going?
It's not going well.
I put him in training pants tonight. (not pull-ups
) We went to the potty a million times and not even a trickle. About five minutes after the last time we went he wet his pants. I asked him if he felt wet and he said "nope".
Sorry to hear that. They should have professional potty trainers - like potty train boot camp.
Hi Jill.....I hate the potty training phase. That has to be the one time that using patience and keeping your cool when all you want to do is scream and through things become your biggest parenting skills LOL
I am not gonna be shocked if we dont get a name for a week.....LOL I dont care what his name is myself just think it is weird that she is using McFlurry LOL
And I am laughing much at the masses on Twitter who are tweeting her of how they cant get on her blog MUHAHAHAHAHA I bet the inability to click is making them crazier by the minute
mwop said it's Lachlan
Well at least it isnt that other name MWOP was talking about....that name was horrible
Lol, they actually do have professional potty trainers.
What was the other name suggested Shannon.
There was the name Haakan. I guess one of her readers had suggested it and she liked it....I think she made a much better choice :)
OH I would have loved a professional potty trainer. I love my kids but man if we could have just done that one like them learning to crawl or walk or talk it would have been much better for me :)
I third (or fourth) the thought that Bill looked too thin.
"Bill Cosby died" is a trending topic on twitter. He's not even dead.
Why do people start rumors like that?
We talked about Lachlan when we thought we were having a 3rd boy, because we were really into "Lost" and one of my favorite characters was "Lock." We decided on Duncan. Then it was a girl. Then end.
So we have baby pictures. None of mom or dad holding their baby, just of him in a hospital bed hooked up to crap. He looks pretty big, but if there wasn't something to be concerned about, why would they stick an IV in his head?
They would do the IV to keep him from getting dehydrated mostly Mulie. He isnt breastfeeding plus I am sure that he currently has a lot of drugs running through his system so may very well not be eating much due to being sleepy. Probably have some type of steroid or something due to the retraction to give him a boost.
I will say that he fits right in with the other 4...he is very adorable.
I really like "Lachlan" but this was entirely too drama free for her. Something is going to happen in the next day or so, you watch.
Jill, I'll train Richard for you. I trained poor Jake in a day when I finally put my foot down but I have to warn you, I'm mean about it.
Hey everyone! Big news in bloggy land today, huh? And gosh what a surprise!!! LOL!
It's pretty sad that all of JM's readers can figure out she's pregnant before she does, know when her baby's due before she does. She thinks she is swift but really, it's so obvious. She's dug herself into such a deep hole, there's no getting out. I'd be mortified. Even worse are the people who still haven't caught on.
The baby is adorable and so are her other kiddos. That is something she and IM do well! Maybe she'll actually start paying attention to them now instead of living for Twitter!
And happy to say that I am officially long clean of Blog Frog!
I wouldn't mind winning that cute little plaid pink computer though. =) I wonder who else got one to giveaway? With the HP Touch, I think 5 bloggers were picked. I'll enter their giveaways!
Heather, hi!!! So this is what it took to bring out out again - JM birthin' another baby. ;-) I don't even go enough to know what's being given away but I'll admit, I'm weird about things being given away like she does, just to generate clicks. I far prefer the little mom-to-mom things like we do with Margaret's pretties or the contest for a charity on Mulie's friend Nancy's blog. I honestly think I'd feel sort of icky if I won anything from JM. I'm weird like that.
HI all I have missed alot....I will be here more since I am grounded to my chair for the most part
Hi Missie.....good to see you but if I had known it took grounding you to your chair to get you here I would have done it a while ago LOL
Hi Heather....AMEN SISTA!!!!
I am really not ready to be up yet...hopefully I can get a nap in today LOL
Hi Missy - sorry you are grounded to a chair but I'm glad to see you!
Well my lupus and RA like being a troublesome pair and then I fell.So I have a trashed shoulder and knee.Do you know how happy I was during the World Cup soccer to have my dr tell me to sit in my recliner and drink beer haha.Anyway the shoulder is not healing and since I am right handed I am pretty much stuck in my chair ohhhh and the kids go back to school tuesday and stinky to daycare monday wooooooot
Damn, Missy, that's a lot of hurt. I'm so sorry. I'd hug you but I'd hurt you :)
you dont even want to know how shots I have had in my joints lately..and now they added a new weekly one that is nasty
ooh and smooch margaret I have missed ya
Oh Missie that sucks big time.....RA is never a good thing in the first place so I can only imagine what falling did for you.
I am sure that with as much as it sucks it must be nice in its own way knowing that the mommy maid is outta commission :)
Stopping in for a minute. Hi Missie and I'm sorry you're not feeling well.
Hi to all.
I agree Bill looked sickly...
Potty training...works like a charm even though people disagree. M&M's...1 for pee, 2 for poo. All three boys were potty trained quick with that, and they were right at 2. So glad I am past that...:)
New link to my coffee table book I made..shameless plug...
http://www.mypublisher.com/?e=OHm3Q8zJl3TleomPs-gWdydiAnChm01Q&_mp=qu605uL2v%2BAAVIJOj3iYVhUY0L/cQgSZ%0A
Let it load, and then just use the arrows to flip through the pages. Next one I am making is my son's baseball, then a family shoot we did. They are actually really fun to put together, jus time consuming, and I get just a wee bit anal..LOL
Hope everyone is having a good day. I just dropped off my middle son,Liam, at Freshmen orientation...weird. I feel like he was just potty trained! LOL
Ok, ventured over to MWOP. I don't understand the huge fatuation with this chick. She had a baby, named him Lochia..oh Lachlan..yeah,that's what I see, the gunk that comes out after you have a baby. So bad. She gets money per click? Hell, if that was me I would draw it out too. And what's more funny, is everyone bitches about it, but what are they doing? CLICKING AWAY! LOL!!
Cute album, I love the picture of them on the bench.
Did you do that book for clients or do you know those people? I am not sure I cared for those brown bridesmaids dresses. Their reception looked beautiful, though. Was it a backyard?
Thanks! I like that one too. They were a very easy to photograph...so happy and in lovveeee. ick! LOL
We do the book for clients, it's part of a package. The dresses were ok. That seems to be the new thing....more subdued colors, etc. And yeah, it was in their neighbors backyard. It was gorgeous!
Where is AP today - milking cows?
Milking cows? My ass. Had to take Miss Arse to an eye doctor appointment. Yay, she's cleared for her next surgery. It has to be with a doctor who specializes in this transplant stuff, though, so we get to start a whole new round with all new people. Good times.
Crappage on new people but I'm glad things are coming along.
It's been quiet here today, I think Mulie may have gone to Bill Cosby's funeral :)
That or she's visiting JM in the hospital. ;-)
I have actually been feeling unlike my usual shit-on-a-stick and have been a busy girl. Laundry (including line drying), dishes, preparation for canning, sorting through the out-grown baby clothes (begging my husband to let me have another girl, because these clothes are just so damn cute), baking banana bread, and making and baking a blackberry pie. All while wearing heels and pearls.
While wearing heels and pearls - brings to mind June Cleaver.
I need Mulie to come to my house for a day to do all that shit here. I promise to stay out of her way. I will stay in bed and sleep like a good girl.
Tammi- I loved your book! The bench shot was great. I don't mind the color of the dresses, they just needed to be a little longer, imo. It was an unflattering style for all the bridesmaids. You guys do nice work.
Lisa (almost said AP) Woohoo for the transplant clearance! I know it's a bitch to go through all those appointments with newbies again - but so happy for her to get a shot at the transplant.
Tammi what a great job you and your husband do on the weddings - JM should take a lesson from you! And those books would be priceless, what a great thing to add as part of your package!!
Yay for your mom and being cleared for the next surgery Lisa!!!
Hey, all. I think Mulie is lying about a few things... :-D
Anything new with anyone?
I got a new mop. It's been an exciting day.
How's this LisAP?
I think little baby girls clothes are the bomb, but I'm NOT considering having another child in order to indulge that particular like. Tempting as it is....
Lol, CK! Well, I like wedding rings but that ain't happening here, either. I'm sure Mulie was joking, though.
Oopsie Daisy....
AP - just owly about my niece who is having another one cause it's where she gets her sense of worth.
And JM cause it's where she gets her $worth$.
And probably a tiny bit jealous, because I loved raising the little ones. But had to stop at two due to pathologically lying and narcissistic first husband.
I don't get these women who get their sense of worth from having babies. It's not like having one is anything special and yes, I know that sounds terrible but really, it's not as if it takes talent or intelligence or really anything but a working set of reproductive organs. Any idiot can have one. Want to impress me? Adopt one.
I agree, AP. Or be a foster parent - that's a tough journey.
It's as much about the raising, if not more, than it is about the conceiving and birthing.
I love the couples who get pregnant to *save their marriage - idiots!
I made more than my share of mistakes. Many things I'd do differently with what I know now.
But in spite of the crap my ex and I threw at them, my kids are pretty independent, and know their minds - which are both good traits.
Hey Margaret!
What's new in your world?
"I agree, AP. Or be a foster parent - that's a tough journey."
Indeed it is. For the good ones, that's a true journey of love right there.
I've never, ever understood anyone purposely having a child in a marriage that isn't good, like JM. That boggles my mind, frankly, the degree of selfishness that takes.
Not much going on here, CK.
Same here, Margaret.
Time for bed - good night.
Me too.
G'nite JohnBoy. G'nite MaryEllen.
See I had two. That was all I wanted, it was all I could afford, and it was all my sanity could handle. I dont know what it is with women both teens and adults who seem to think that a baby will make the father stay and love them. In reality it just means that eventually you will be a single mother to more kids.
Shannon - You are a wise, wise woman.
AP- "really, it's not as if it takes talent or intelligence or really anything but a working set of reproductive organs. Any idiot can have one"
Oh, Amen. Amen to infinity. And most times those fucking idiots have more than one!!
I would love to adopt another girl, but when you already have 3 kids and no money, that's probably not going to happen. We had planned to adopt because CF runs in my family and we had decided we didn't want to risk having a child with CF. We did genetic testing and here we are 3 kids later. We were actually scheduled for Foster Parenting classes last fall when we found out we were pregnant and when my BIL died suddenly, so we decided to postpone.
My aunt and uncle have fostered for a number of years and find it very rewarding. They did have to take a few years in the middle where they couldnt have any fosters because my cousin turned out to be a shit mother and they got to have their grandchildren become their own. Once they got the youngest into school they were able to foster again.
I have an a personal rule in mind for fostering; no children older than ours and preferably, no children older than our youngest. I currently don't have any experience with school age children, so I would just like to stay with what I know. Who knows when we will have the opportunity to do the classes now and things are more than hectic with the kids we have. Family services has already done our initial inspection and likes that we are willing to take infants we are not interested (per se) in adopting. I guess a lot of people want to foster-to adopt babies, and if they can avoid giving people babies who hope to keep them, when the case looks like they may go back to the birth family or members of that family, they will try not to do that. I would imagine it is heart breaking.
I don't think it is a good idea to foster kids when you have your own little ones. It is a big undertaking to have kids that are not your own in the house ans *well as your own little ones. I think once the kids are in middle school it is more realistic.
It definitely is Erin that is why my aunt and uncle had to take a break when they adopted the grands. The oldest was 8 and the baby was only about 9 months old. They knew that at that point the kidlets needed more attention then they would get if there were fosters and vice verse.
I am hoping that someday I will be in a position where I can foster but I only want older children. Those poor kids tend to go through so much shit in their young lives and if they can have one moment in their lives where someone really cared it can make all the difference in the world. The older kids often feel worthless because everyone wants the babies because they are cute and little and have less issues.....I want to foster older kids and I would also love to adopt older kids so that they know before going out in the ugly world of adulthood that they have a family and they belong and are wanted somewhere.
Lisa...I didn't know about a transplant. What's wrong with the eye?
And I would never foster until my kids were out of the house. I would never want them to feel like they were being put aside, while we dealt with other kids. That's just *me.
I don't get the whole "lets have a baby to make things better" either. If anything it just makes it worse. Now you are fighting and bickering...still...but you have a screaming baby in the mix. Yeah, that will settle the nerves.
And thanks about the book. I imagine I will show you others. :) I loved how that one turned out, but I wish she would have picked a few more of the candid and artsy b&w shots. She was more old school.
EL and Shannon are riding sidesaddle on the horse of reason today :)
It's the *high horse of reason.
Well you know me I love my high horse :)
One of the reasons we started the process when we did was because my husband's niece was about to lose her kids and her mom was refusing to take them because she wanted her daughter to step up and raise her own children (rightly so), but we wanted to be able to get them without a problem should they be taken. Her mom ended up taking them, but we had already been talking to child and had a home inspection done, the child services rep, had been pressuring us into continuing, because there is that big of a need in our county. We figured we would be better equip to handle littles since we are already knee deep in small stuff.
I don't think I'd want older kids as long as my kids were still in school. A lot of those kids may have been sexually abused and most abusers were once abused, so I don't want to put my children in a place they can be abused.
As for taking away from your own, I really think that fostering can be a gift to your own children.
I don't even know if I would want to foster after my own children were grown. I want a freaking life again some day. Maybe if I had started having kids earlier, but I am going to be ready to rock once I get these kids out!
I think your theory and reasoning behind wanting to foster older kids is very admirable, Shannon. I don't think, from my experience with court and all, that it works that way too often in the real world. By the time they hit teen years and all they've been through, they are, unfortunately, ruined. IMO, of course. That's not to say I don't think there are kids out there who can still be "saved" by someone offering them that love and that stab at a good and decent life. Just that it's not the standard, you know? I don't think I could do it, selfish as that sounds, because I think I would be too idealistic and it would break my heart over and over and over.
I know my kids, they wouldn't like it one bit. LOL They are possessive of mom and dad, and PLUS for me...I wouldn't want some hoodlum coming in here and maybe giving my kids, uh, "ideas".
Of course that is just the nasty Repub in me coming out. :)
In Missouri, if the parents can't get their ship together within a year of the child being removed, the children are placed for adoption. They do everything in their power to help the parents, but they don't want the children to be kept in limbo waiting for these parents forever.
You *are a nasty Repub, Tammi! ::shakes head::
I'm sorry, but I do tend to agree. I think it's great to help if you can and if you have the resources and time and energy, but ... yeah, I guess I don't want that element around me and mine, either. I'm okay with that.
I need to clarify. Taking on foster kids from a situation you are familiar with, with family and so on? Totally, totally different, in my book, and something I would do myself. I was talking about just entering the foster system in general, taking on kids you don't know background of.
<---rubs jaw where it's sore from foot being inserted.
Come on, Tammi! You could make it into a movie like the one with Sandra Bullock. The media only cares when pretty (and rich) women do that, and you look like you fit the pretty bill. Do you have an awful Southern accent? I think that helps too.
Mulie - she does not have an accent at all. Damn Californians.
Oh same here. Of course I have no siblings, but if I did and they needed help with their kids, I would be right there. But like you say, just entering the system when these kids have been in who knows what kind of situation? no.
Actually I fit the pretty bill...dont' be hatin'... and the rich bill? Depends on the year. No accent, tattoos, or anime in sight!
Coming out of lurkdom to say, wow, Mulie. That was a totally bitchy thing to say.
Hi to everyone else...I've missed you.
Hi BD!
Mulie has had a little chip on her shoulder with regard to Tammi since day one - not sure why, but maybe it'll liven this place up! :-)
::::preens::::
Ha! I like Tammi! It was a *joke. I said she was pretty too. Tammi, you knew that was a joke, right? Damn!
Hi Tammi. It's nice to meet your pretty, preening self. I'm BD, and I haven't posted here in a while because I grew tired of some of the passive-agressive shit that was being vomited back up onto this board. But I have a feeling I'll like you. :)
Oh, Mulie, I don't think it was a joke at all. I think you knew *exactly what you were saying. If you are going to insult someone, at least own it.
Uh, seriously, BD? Total joke. I don't going around insulting people. I might make bad jokes, but I don't know enough about Tammi to insult her if I *had something I disliked about her. I think she is fun and interesting. Honestly.
Well, maybe you need to rethink your jokes. Because they aren't funny. And frankly, you aren't as dumb and thoughtless as you try to play off you are.
And with that, I leave the playground to tend to real life, again. Hope everyone is having a great day; I miss posting her and hope to be back at some point.
Or, I miss posting HERE. Either way.
Robin - with all due respect, EL and Shannon made good points but they are hardly ready to ride the high horse. And you think you know horses - hmph!
I am going to call BS after all. How am I any bitchier for saying that taking in a kid like that Sandra Bullock movie then other people all for calling kids in foster care *hoodlums? I really don't think any of it was. It was just a serious discussion trying to be made a little lighter in tone. IMO.
Margaret - you do make a good point. :::nod:::
Calling kids in foster care hoodlums is bitchy, no doubt, but for all the time I've known Tammi, I've never known her to not own her own bitchiness! And where the heck did she *go, anyway?
Missie, hi! I'm sorry you're laid up but awfully glad you found your way back to us. :-)
"Lisa...I didn't know about a transplant. What's wrong with the eye?"
Rebel cataract without a cause, so it fused itself to her cornea and then calcified since it had nothing better to do. She gets a shiny new cornea, as a result.
BD! I see you and it's a nice thing to see!
Mulie, look, let's face it, you're pretty good with the passive-aggressive snark. It's not that I don't admire that, I do, but I can also spot it when I hear it. :-D
Re: foster kids. Honestly, like some of the others here, I'd take in one or two I know, if need be. Hell, I've done that. But older kids I don't know? I used to think that's exactly what I wanted to do and now? Not so much. I don't want or need some troubled kid I don't even know stealing from me, doing drugs in my house, running away, being violent, whatever, just so I can try to "help" them. Nope, I'm not that nice of a person anymore. Little kids? maybe. I know I'm unable to adopt them so I'd put up natural walls against getting so attached that it would hurt to give them back. But if I had young kids already at home? Never, ever would I foster and put my own through that attachment and loss over and over.
Tammi - Anime? Funniest thing ever.
I wish y'all would leave that damn high horse alone. It's mine.
AP - I did not want to call out who owns the horse - I think that's understood. I myself am riding the coin operated horse of reason outside Target.
Ok, back for a sec...then off to take Liam to his ortho appt...damn those things cost A LOT, good thing I am rich! ::insert groan here::
Well, Mulie I know exactly what you were doing, it's all good...but own it! I knew exactly what I was doing after all! heehee
"Mulie, look, let's face it, you're pretty good with the passive-aggressive snark. It's not that I don't admire that, I do, but I can also spot it when I hear it."
It's just good old-fashioned snark. Not intended to be hurtful. Oopsie?
Of course it was snarky, ya'll! I beg you all to find more than 5 comments on this post that arn't! I see bitchy as a negative thing, snarky is just fun at the expense of others. *BIG difference. ;-D
<---turns her "Bitch" hoodie around so no one can see the imprint.
"Of course it was snarky, ya'll! I beg you all to find more than 5 comments on this post that arn't!"
Totally a rhetorical question, BTW. ;-D
I don't think any of us mind snark (I know I don't!) as long as it's owned as snark.
<----Pulling her shirt up to cove the bitch Anime tattoo in her left breast.
FTR, I don't mind bitchy, either.
"I don't think any of us mind snark (I know I don't!) as long as it's owned as snark."
I will never deny snark! (It would be kind of difficult). And, *some people apparently do mind snark. <---passive-aggressive snarky statement
"No accent, tattoos, or anime in sight!"
Should I be insulted, Tammy?
http://tinyurl.com/2eashu5
Margaret, I'm glad everyone knows who owns the high horse. *nods*
I like bitch and snark both but hell, don't deny it when you get called on it because then it just turns into passive aggressive behavior.
Mulie, all joking aside, were you serious about the genetic counseling thing?
"Mulie, all joking aside, were you serious about the genetic counseling thing?"
We absolutely did. Our insurance covered all but $5 of it, so it was a no brainer. At that time, if we were going to adopt, it was going to be internationally and China was getting ready to change it's adoption laws, so we knew we needed to make a decision. Two different cousins have kids with CF, so we knew we would want to take the risk. My sister and her husband are both carriers, and they decided to take the risk and they have 2 CF-free boys. I just didn't want put I child through that if there was something I could do. CF is also one of the reasons I believe in organ donation.
Interesting. Well, thanks for answering.
would=wouldn't want to take the risk
Interesting discussion. Honestly, I've never thought about it (genetic counseling) to any degree before.
Mulie, just thinking out loud here...do you think most people with CF wish they'd never been born?
Lisa - if they'd never been born, they wouldn't know.
CK, I disagree but maybe I worded that badly. I'm wondering if Mulie thinks most of them often think "Gosh, this is so awful, so painful, I wish I'd never been born."
Day to Day in home fostering is not on my agenda. I admire those that do that. However, we are involved in helping out organizations that work with kids in troubled homes or poverty to get them education and into mentoring programs. The government has reduced funding in so many of these areas and has left it up to the public to supply funds. And so, with this all said, I do hope that if you (generic you) are not into the having a stranger in your home, that you will reach out and donate money, food, clothing, school supplies and time to these programs.
No, and I have/had to be very sensitive around my family members w/ the CF kids and grandkids, as to not like their kids should not have been born. It's just that 2 CF babies had just been born within 2 years of each other and when the 2nd was diagnosed it confirmed that it was from that side of the family. Both were very sick and I didn't feel good about planning to have a baby that could have a 25% chance of being terminally ill.
Kaytie - that was very well said, and I agree. I do think I tend to be jaded and cynical with regard to those kids, which isn't fair, and is selfish of me. It's what I do for work and that does make me feel less than warm and fuzzy, or less than hopeful or optimistic. I do admire that there are those who can and do provide care and love for those kids, and I do firmly believe the intent of many people, programs and agencies is totally from the heart and deserve to be supported.
Kaytie - yes, very good point. We can help in lots of ways.
<---holding hands singing folk songs.
CK can ride the folk song horse.
<---taking requests.
<---tuning up the gee-tar.
:::clears throat to join in on Kumbaya::: ::takes off bra so I look the part:::
Margaret said, "I myself am riding the coin operated horse of reason outside Target."
This is one of my most favorite things you have ever said. I couldn't let that one go past. You crack me up lady! ♥
Mulie, the US already has a near-7% infant mortality rate to start with. Anyone could have a baby who is stillborn, born terminally ill, does shortly after birth, etc. But am I reading what you're saying up there when I read it to be you don't think their kids with CF should have been born?
"::takes off bra so I look the part:::"
I have a feeling I'll be needing a slingshot soon. Give me that bra.
And I'm off for a few hours. I'd rather stay here. :-P
I call BS on AP - she wasn't wearing a bra to start with.
Thanks, Linds. I'm almost out of quarters.
Margaret *knows AP. ::nod:
Set up a pay pal button Margaret. I'll funnel my spare change :)
<---hands natural mother Robin the gee-tar
I have too much to say and must work. So I'm out of here.
I think we do what we can to have healthy babies, but of course, there are no guarantees.
I for one think I would take 7% odds (which are likely much lower with good prenatal care and a healthy mom to start) over 25% plus. But I've not been in that position, so I don't know, if push came to shove, what I would do.
Reasonable efforts to have a healthy baby seem....well, reasonable. I mean we try to eat well, avoid drugs and alcohol, exercise, sleep - you know that general stuff. I don't see gathering knowledge about significant hereditary risks as too much.
If it doesn't matter, becasue 7% die anyway, why even bother with that?
I realize that genetic testing does not mean you will be guarantee to have a healthy baby. I don't wish that they weren't born. I just wish they didn't have to suffer from CF.
It was never a priority for us to have bio kids (says the girl with 3 of them). My husband grew up in a home where all 6 of his older brothers and sister grew up in foster care, so he has always been keen to the idea of adopting and/or fostering. It's just (for us) a whole lot easier to make your own babies then it is to go through the grueling adoption process.
"We absolutely did. Our insurance covered all but $5 of it, so it was a no brainer"
Wow,I am surprised. I know many,many people who had had that done, and none was covered by insurance. It's considered an elective. You were lucky!
And adopt from China? You must be the rich one. :) I have had a few friends do that, and it can cost upwards of $100K All the paperwork, bribing the govt, the two week mandatory stay...just wow.
And geez Robin...put your bra back on! LOL And remember "we don't do Sharpeis!" I think I spelled that wrong...
Just so we're all clear here, even if I take my bra off, I'm *still shaving. I have my limits.
"And adopt from China? You must be the rich one. :) I have had a few friends do that, and it can cost upwards of $100K All the paperwork, bribing the govt, the two week mandatory stay...just wow."
We were young and dumb at the time and had really no idea to the actual total cost. We were DINKS at the time and actually had money, and there was also some kind of incentive for govt employees at the time. I think. That was a while ago, so I don't remember all the details.
I have no idea why the insurance covered everything. We expected to pay thousands for it, but $5 is all we paid for some blood work for my husband's portion. :D
Kaytie...I totally agree!
And that being said, we just about have a foster kid. One of Zach's friend's pretty much lives here. Hates going home, dad is a DICK..yes, a DICK...mom could care less. For prom last year I bought all of his clothes, tickets, flowers, etc. Last week was Sr Portraits...I was the one getting him ready. It floors me how a mother could just care less and let another do all that.
But, he is a good kid. It could have easily gone the other way. He has pretty much been here all summer...the only time they want him home is to clean. It gripes me to death! Once he is out on his own, I am gonna rip his parents a new asshole. It will be so kick and swift they won't see it coming, til they try and take a crap!
:::shivers at Tammi's scariness::
That should be quick and swift...I must have been spitting while I spoke...got all worked up! LOL
Robin...oh the whole situation just drives me mad! I don't mind helping him...when we can do it, but it's that his parents just don't care! We even put him on our cell plan. He texts me and Randy more then his parents. ok, I could go on and on...but you get it.
I do. And I'm glad you're able to be there for him.
Couldn't find where I tossed my bra last night...did find my old zippo though :-D
Can't sing worth beans, but I can sway away to Kumbaya.
Child birth is a crapshoot. To me it is amazing when all goes well and mom and baby are healthy.
Parenting is the kicker. There are so many kids born to parents who do not have a clue or means to care for them in this country.
We've talked about it before, and I am glad that kids from other countries are being adopted, but it is my personal opinion that it is more admirable to adopt children from your own country first. JMO.
Mulie...I know you are stalking my shit on Facebook...stop staring at my pictures...hahahahahahaha :)
Kaytie...absolutely! I know my one friend who eventually adopted from China only did so after three attempts here. It was crazy,they kept falling through. I felt so bad for them.
Tammi - Now I can relate to that situation. Helping in home kids that from family or your friends' kids that are going through a difficult time. We have done these things. And it is hard, you want to kick the parents' asses for being so dysfunctional. Those experiences got to me so bad that I know for a fact I could not take in a stranger. However, I do subscribe to the theory it takes a village, and we do our best to help out in other ways.
Mulie and Tammi are FB friends. Now we really *do have to sing Kumbaya!
or Highway to Hell...
Tossing my Tie Dye Tee for my leathers...LOL!
OK - putting action to my typing. Off to get my son to work at the Lion's Club Booth.
See ya later Daisies!
Hey let me catch up already LOL.....I needed a nap and you all got super chatty.
Now for myself I am NOT afraid of hoodlums...I have some of those in my house right now. The reason I would prefer older kids is not as admirable as it sounds.....I have been a mom for 18 years now and I dont think I want to go back to all the milestone years.
And as a disclaimer....Lisa never said the high horse got to stay hers when she handed over the reigns for OD :) I thought it was all part of the deal.
Oh and forgot to say that I dont worry about a foster kid teaching mine anything it is the other way around
I'm off too! It's a day of appts, and they are just spread out enough to have to go back and forth, back and forth...
And now I must listen to my AC/DC...LOL
LOL AC/DC is good for getting the pace set for a day of appts
"I call BS on AP - she wasn't wearing a bra to start with."
Oh, please. *Please. I'd wear a bra 24/7 if I didn't need to let things air out once in awhile.
"Reasonable efforts to have a healthy baby seem....well, reasonable. I mean we try to eat well, avoid drugs and alcohol, exercise, sleep - you know that general stuff. I don't see gathering knowledge about significant hereditary risks as too much."
Gathering knowledge is fine. *Doing something about it is another thing entirely. But again, I'm saying that based on my own religious beliefs, and as such, I don't believe God makes mistakes. I or problem, that's the condition God wants that particular person to be brought into our world with and it's for a reason. That person is needed at that given time. I understand some don't agree with that and that's fine, but I just figured I'd explain why I see it as I do. In my opinion, genetic testing and conceiving based on the results is playing God and I'll pass on both doing that and thinking it's okay.
"I have no idea why the insurance covered everything. We expected to pay thousands for it, but $5 is all we paid for some blood work for my husband's portion. :D"
Was it military insurance? If so, that explains it. It pays for all types of...stuff...civilian insurance doesn't.
"but it is my personal opinion that it is more admirable to adopt children from your own country first. JMO."
I couldn't agree more.
*trying to catch up*
I want to apologize to you all for something. A few months back we did the sale to help Chris and I asked you all to participate. I found out today that both Elisabeth and her husband quit their jobs to take care of Chris which is nonsense. I'm sure all of us would do what we could to help our brother but 2 people leaving their jobs? Had I known that I would have never gotten involved. There are a lot of scams online and while yes stroke is a serious thing I feel like I've been scammed and involved other people as well - and for that I'm truly sorry!
Shannon - Can we change the header? My favorite Mommy Blogger is Barefoot Foodie. I don't read JM or MWOP.
How's that for snobby and snotty :-D
"Now for myself I am NOT afraid of hoodlums..."
I'm not afraid of them either. I just don't want to deal with things that matter to me being stolen, cops on my doorstep, police reports, having to shoot someone...it just all gets so messy.
BTW - Has anyone heard from Elisabeth and Chris?
Shannon - you ride that High Horse just fine. I can lend you some chaps and spurs. My boots are a mess, though. They're nothing but good for shit kickin'.
HAHAHA Kaytie
Margaret I do agree. I too am disappointed for so many here who did so much to help and as soon as the bank dried up she disappeared. I do not doubt the health issues that Chris is going through but I do think that Elisabeth is milking things to the end. She told us she could no longer get online and that is why she could no longer post here.....however she hasnt skipped a beat posting on MWOP.
I am sorry but perhaps pot should meet kettle and realize that using people is not OK and just like JM it will catch up to you.
I will say that I do not regret participating in the auction because I know that my heart, like the others who helped, was in the right place. But when two people quit their jobs while still asking for donations to help with daily needs I call BS.
"A few months back we did the sale to help Chris and I asked you all to participate. I found out today that both Elisabeth and her husband quit their jobs to take care of Chris which is nonsense. I'm sure all of us would do what we could to help our brother but 2 people leaving their jobs? Had I known that I would have never gotten involved."
Wait a minute. I knew Elisabeth did, which I understood. I did NOT know her husband did. I was under the impression she quit because they could scrape by on his income alone and I could understand that choice since paying an aide to put in the hours she did would probably cost more than she made. Are you sure they both did, Margaret? Either way, I owe everyone a far bigger apology than Margaret ever does. I honestly had no clue they basically all quit and decided to live on handouts. Goddammit. I'm so, so sorry I dragged everyone into this. :-(
But Lisa the hoodlums I deal with everyday are my own kids and steppish kids LOL......Let me tell you I am counting down the next 11 months and 3 weeks until the boy is 18 and he can get himself out of the pickles he creates.
Lisa
DO NOT APOLOGIZE
Like I said our hearts were in the right place. We were trying to help someone out. It is not our burden to bear if they took advantage.
This is what she wrote on twitter today "So, my work couldn't hold my job for me while I've been taking care of my bro. My husband also resigned his post because frankly it took both of us to handle everything. Now sharing duty w/mom because the hubs & I have to start work again. You know, to like, survive & stuff"?
Hey Margaret! I should hit refresh before commenting - LOL!
Stroke is a very serious condition. And yes, feeling scammed sums it up. Not a word here for quite awhile :-(
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