oopsie daisy...i said that?: It's Sunday.

Sunday, February 21, 2010

It's Sunday.

Let's all watch church on TV!

That's Jan Crouch and she co-founded the Trinity Broadcasting Network with her husband. Lord knows I have to give proper credit on this one.

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Shannon said...: AP that lady scares me to say the least!!! Then again all the peeps on TBN scare me as they sit there all fancy clothed begging me for my money!; February 21, 2010 at 12:38 PM
Robin said...: I would like to take a moment to clear something up.

I get the feeling that there are many among us that suspect that I am the one behind Kristin's banning from SIP, and I'd like, for my own peace of mind, to set the record straight about this, and put those thoughts to rest, if possible.

I am not behind won's decision to ban Kristin and Tee. Not in any shape or form.

won said she was in contact with TWO people as she made this decision. I said that I was one of them. I also said that I practically BEGGED her not to do it--to let whatever she was feeling ride, because to make any such choice would rip "us" apart. This is not a newsflash--I said the same thing on SIP in the aftermath that followed the bans and the turmoil that ensued.

There were TWO people--and the other one also said she was one of the two. This other person, who subsequently left SIP as if she was offended by what happened there and is now very welcomed here, ENCOURAGED won to ban both Kristin AND Tee. In fact, she told won, "I'd boot them BOTH." It wasn't me, in any fashion.

Maybe this other person will own what she did. But more likely, she won't.

It's not my intention to stir up any trouble; I just don't feel comfortable with anyone thinking I was the one behind any of that. Yes, I was in contact with won, but I really, really hoped she wouldn't do it. I asked her not to do it.

So with having said all that, I will leave it alone now. It's in the past, and it should stay there. I just felt a need to say this, and I hope no one minds that I did.

Thanks.; February 21, 2010 at 12:45 PM
Shannon said...: R2 I am very glad that you have made that statement here because you did also say that on SIP and some, like Kristin and Tee were not there to know that.

It is rather sad however that you did call it and hit the nail on the head.

I am very happy to see you and hopefully we can all just pick up with our friendships and carry on for a while.; February 21, 2010 at 12:48 PM
Robin said...: It all makes me very sad, Shannon.

I feel sad and so helpless about it. It all has felt and continues to feel so wrong to me.

But I'm a big girl. Life isn't living if there aren't changes. Sometimes they're good, and sometimes they're not. Life goes on.; February 21, 2010 at 12:51 PM
Nilia said...: R2: I don't mind that you did. Okay, let's put it all out here. On subsequent bannings, like, oh, mine, were there not supposed to be a team of 2 people? Were there? If not are you comfortable with this, R2? I'm not sure if you're here with Won's blessing or not, but unless you are you have broken her rule of what stays on SIP, well, you know.

I'm not unhappy to find you here. This is an open blog. We've all seen, some of us the hard way, that there is no truly private blog. Being on an open blog shuts my mouth on private details, for example.

I hope that nobody minds what *I have to say here.; February 21, 2010 at 12:52 PM
Nilia said...: R2: I did not mean to make my post sound unwelcome. I apologize if I did.; February 21, 2010 at 12:53 PM
Shannon said...: I fully agree....I mean heck I was gone for a few days and came back to the news that Tee and Kristin were gone and got to walk in with all of the backlash and emotions from it all. I am saddened by it all and wish I knew how to fix it but I dont. I am still sad to not be at SIP and a part of me really hopes that I will be able to keep in touch with everyone.

I hate the changes that hurt but as big girls we all know that sometimes they happen.; February 21, 2010 at 12:54 PM
Robin said...: I don't get permission to post here, there, or anywhere. won didn't know I was going to post here--why would I feel the need to ask? I did this for *me.*

I went to sleep one night last week, only to wake up to find more people banned the next morning. Like many other people did.

I'm not on some "ban committee," though I have remained and will remain friends with won, and continue to talk with her. I don't think she'll ban me for speaking *my* truth here--I haven't taken anything from SIP and posted it here, not saying that you did, either. I did not contribute to that decision, if that's what you're asking me.

Comfortable? I said above I have felt sad and that this whole thing has felt wrong to me. What more could I say?; February 21, 2010 at 12:58 PM
Anonymous said...: I completely own it, R2. Won laid out some facts and feelings to me, and based on those, I advised her, as a friend. Tee and I are not in contact, I have emailed back and forth with Kristin.

Now, if you are here to stir shit, drum up some passive aggressive trouble, be my guest. I don't really care. I left SIP not because of Kristin and Tee being banned, I left because of the subsequent random bannings and Won's increasing paranoid behavior.

I have been completely honest. When Won came to me with her concerns, I gave my opinion to her. In no way did I force her to push the "uninvite" button.

God, just what I wanted to walk into this morning...; February 21, 2010 at 1:02 PM
Lisa said...: Grocery money, no less!

I caught up and am sorry so many of us have been having headaches and migraines. Corinne, thanks for the voodoo - either that or the mountain of Advil is holding it at bay right now.

R2, it's really nice to see you here! Hope all has been well with y'all. :-)

Nic, I was thinking about your daughter this morning. How's she doing?; February 21, 2010 at 1:04 PM
Robin said...: Bella--I am not attacking you, nor am I stirring up any trouble intentionally. I am glad that you own your part in what happened over there, as I am owning mine. I posted what I did here this morning to hopefully remove any suspicion placed on *me.*

There is nothing passive-aggressive about it. I said what I said because I needed to say it. If it pains you, my apologies. I have no guilt about it.; February 21, 2010 at 1:05 PM
Robin said...: And with that, I am off to enjoy this beautiful day and clean my messy house.

Thanks for listening, ladies.

:); February 21, 2010 at 1:07 PM
Nilia said...: R2: I don't think anyone contributed to that decision but Won. I have never thought otherwise.

As for posting here or anywhere, that was always supposed to be understood to be okay. But it wasn't. I won't quote Won's email lest she go apeshit but let's just say that it was NOT okay.; February 21, 2010 at 1:07 PM
Lisa said...: I'll leave it alone after this, too, but I do want to say I remember R2 saying this clearly.

"I said that I was one of them. I also said that I practically BEGGED her not to do it--to let whatever she was feeling ride, because to make any such choice would rip "us" apart."

Anything else, I don't care, not my business, it's over and done with. But for those not on SIP at the time, I did want to back R2 up on the fact she did, indeed, say exactly this.; February 21, 2010 at 1:07 PM
Nilia said...: Have a productive day cleaning, R2, I have some tidying up to do also, and then later we're all going out. So I'll pop in and out.

Talk to you all later.; February 21, 2010 at 1:08 PM
Anonymous said...: "There were TWO people--and the other one also said she was one of the two. This other person, who subsequently left SIP as if she was offended by what happened there and is now very welcomed here, ENCOURAGED won to ban both Kristin AND Tee. In fact, she told won, "I'd boot them BOTH." It wasn't me, in any fashion."

Should I *not be welcomed here, R2? As above, I own my part. Is Won a robot, controlled by me? She made the final decision.; February 21, 2010 at 1:08 PM
Nilia said...: AP: I was still on SIP at the time, and I remember R2's post to that effect very well. So I'll back her up on that too, sorry I missed that I should have.; February 21, 2010 at 1:09 PM
Anonymous said...: And, I am done with it as well. It's old news, and anyone can contact me by email if they feel the need to continue the conversation with me.; February 21, 2010 at 1:09 PM
Robin said...: No, Bella. I am glad you are also welcomed here. That was cruel of me to phrase it that way.

This was about me, not about you. I said what I said to be clear about me, not to convict you.

I phrased it badly, and I apologize for that.

OK, really off to clean now.; February 21, 2010 at 1:11 PM
kristin said...: R2 - It is water under the bridge. Really! Like you said, it is in the past.

I appreciate your honesty.

If you had no intention of "stirring up trouble" why not do this between e-mails?

I mean why bring up the person who made the comment, obviously if said person made such comments about me and tee, then so be it. I am sure many people have said things about others on the privacy of the board. With the recent developments, maybe their opinions changed making a decision to leave the board. Whether or not their opinions changed of me and Tee, I don't know.

Ultimately it was Won's decision to ban me without explanation.

Like I said, I've moved past it and think we all should.

That is all I will say on this subject.

If you or anyone would like to contact me, my e-mail is on my profile.

I have been on and off doing laundry and getting ready for my mom and BIL's b-day.

I will talk to everyone later!; February 21, 2010 at 1:12 PM
Robin said...: Clearly, I did it here by choice. I needed to say it to everyone. And so I have.

Later.; February 21, 2010 at 1:13 PM
Lisa said...: Lol, you're nicer than me. I don't even want to continue it via email.

Bella, do you ever make beer bread? If so, what kind of beer do you prefer in it?; February 21, 2010 at 1:13 PM
Nilia said...: AP: What's beer bread? I have never heard of it! What does it do to the bread, does it change the texture of it? I guess the flavour for sure. I have never made bread except with a machine and I don't even do that anymore; February 21, 2010 at 1:17 PM
Anonymous said...: AP, I would go with an ale and not a lager, as an ale will give the bread a stronger beer flavor. That's about all I've got :D; February 21, 2010 at 1:18 PM
Anonymous said...: Now *I want to make some beer bread...

Speaking of alcohol (and really, when am I not? lol) has anyone ever had Lemoncello? I had a slice of pound cake drizzled with it last night. So tasty! I think it would make a mean martini, as well.; February 21, 2010 at 1:20 PM
Angie said...: <<--- needs a beer and hasn't done a lick of work yet today. Ugh.; February 21, 2010 at 1:24 PM
Angie said...: Bella, I have had lemoncello, in fact there's a bit left in a bottle in my freezer. An old boss of mine, who's Italian, got me a bottle and two shot glasses for Christmas one year. Then I bought some lemonicello glasses I found in a mail order catalog I love (but can't remember the name of right at the moment). The glasses are like thick tall shot glasses and you keep them in the freezer. Lemoncello is good sipped ice cold.; February 21, 2010 at 1:27 PM
Lisa said...: FT, I've got a great recipe for beer bread and we love it, but I'm always a little afraid to experiment with different deers. I usually use a honey ale, I think it is. It's super-easy, a dense bread and you can definitely taste the beer. I'll post the recipe on the recipe site later.

Bella, so basically, I'm already using what you would...some help you are. ;-) And I love lemoncello! I've only had it mixed with lemonade or a little seltzer, though.; February 21, 2010 at 1:28 PM
Anonymous said...: SW, I love lemon in every way, shape, and form. I had never heard of Lemoncello until last night. Interesting that it has it's own special glass :)

<-------will be picking up lemoncello today.; February 21, 2010 at 1:29 PM
Angie said...: BTW, I think it's healthy when people get things off their chests, hash things out, clear the air, then move on. And I'm happy to see that happening here.

I hope you'll be back soon R2, and that the cleaning goes well.

Lord have mercy, how can I make myself work?; February 21, 2010 at 1:30 PM
Angie said...: Lord have mercy, now it's bugging the crap out of me that I can't remember the name of the mail order catalog I bought those damn glasses from. I'm googling wine-related terms and can't find it. Ugh!; February 21, 2010 at 1:33 PM
Lisa said...: "BTW, I think it's healthy when people get things off their chests, hash things out, clear the air, then move on. And I'm happy to see that happening here."

Same here. Otherwise, it festers. :-D; February 21, 2010 at 1:35 PM
Angie said...: Napa Style! Of course! Here's a link to the glasses, Bella:

http://www.napastyle.com/catalog/product.jsp?productId=3540; February 21, 2010 at 1:37 PM
Angie said...: Speaking of festering, how's your belly button, BD? Still gushing?; February 21, 2010 at 1:38 PM
Anonymous said...: Thanks, SW. I am eating an over easy egg, and now comparing BD's Ooze Crater to the yolk.

Thanks for the link! I might pick some up; I love to have glasses that go with the alcohol in them.; February 21, 2010 at 1:41 PM
Erin said...: I love NapaStyle SW!
And "still gushing?" gross!; February 21, 2010 at 1:41 PM
Lisa said...: Oooh, look what I found.

http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/member/views/HOMEMADE-LIMONCELLO-1236891; February 21, 2010 at 1:52 PM
Angie said...: EL, I want pretty much everything in NapaStyle, seriously. This is going to be my next purchase. I've got the perfect spot for it in my kitchen.

http://www.napastyle.com/catalog/ensemble.jsp?ensembleId=243&parentCategoryId=519&categoryId=658&subCategoryId=658; February 21, 2010 at 1:54 PM
Angie said...: AP, zesting 15 lemons at one time? That's more of a commitment to lemoncello than I'm willing to make.; February 21, 2010 at 1:57 PM
Anonymous said...: Hi again! I can't seem to stay away ;)

Hi R2, too! And welcome :)

I will, too, back what R2 just posted about her having begged won not to ban Kristin.
Her comment saying that she begged won not to boot Kristin is the reason why I left.

Bella- I can only speak for myself but I'm glad you're here. Whatever you did or say, ultimately, there was only ONE person who made the final decision and that's not you:-)

Actually, I'm glad many people from SIP are here :-)

FT- I'm working hard on my voodoo to make your migraine go away!; February 21, 2010 at 1:57 PM
Anonymous said...: Yuck. Lemoncello. Yuck.; February 21, 2010 at 1:59 PM
Lisa said...: SW, I don't mind the zesting...it's the kind of thing I like to do while I watch TV. I shell and string beans then, too. Now, if I stood at the counter to zest 15 lemons I'd just give up and take shots of the vodka.; February 21, 2010 at 2:00 PM
Anonymous said...: Corinne, thank you. The one thing that I don't understand in this whole mess is the way I have been vilified by some. I never hid that Won and I were in contact, that Won came to me to ask advice. Won ultimately made the decision to ban. Based on Won's "concerns", I advised that if she was truly uncomfortable, to make the call. That is the extent of my involvement in that.

I hate that some may feel that I was pushing and crowing for people to be banned. I hate that R2 can come here and try to make me feel bad for giving Won advice, but she can continue to support Won, WHO ACTUALLY DID THE BANNING. That last part makes no sense, to me.; February 21, 2010 at 2:03 PM
Anonymous said...: Zesting 15 lemons sounds like carpal tunnel in the making. Wow. I hate zesting one lemon.; February 21, 2010 at 2:04 PM
Angie said...: It's not French, Corinne! Why do you hate it? Or do you hate the Italians too? ;-); February 21, 2010 at 2:05 PM
Anonymous said...: Corinne is a Belgian elitist :D, as Belgians rock in the beer department.; February 21, 2010 at 2:06 PM
Angie said...: I can zest two lemons, then I need a shot. 15 lemons would put me in the hospital for alcohol poisoning.; February 21, 2010 at 2:08 PM
Anonymous said...: I would like to play that drinking game with you, SW.

Every time SW zests two lemons, we all take a shot!; February 21, 2010 at 2:10 PM
Anonymous said...: Bella- I understand what you say.

Honestly, the only person with whom I have issues is Won. I will own it.

I like you, as I do many others who are still on SIP. Whatever they did or say doesn't mean I should hate them all of a sudden. That's not how I roll.
Of course I'm going to disagree at some point with you (general you) and I just want to be allowed to do that. It had become clear that disagreement was not welcome on SIP.

I honestly wondered why Kristin was banned. I felt there was much irrationality behind it. BUT I'm not going to dislike you or ignore you because you agreed with it.

Plus, as I said before, I believe Pandora's box was opened long before Kristin was booted.

So to sum up, I'm glad you're here ;); February 21, 2010 at 2:11 PM
Erin said...: SW- love that sign. There was also a recipe for orangecello too. One of the limoncello recipes called for vanilla beans, but I would use vanilla absolute vodka. Because it is very, very yummy!; February 21, 2010 at 2:13 PM
Anonymous said...: SW- I don't hate Italians! But I seriously dislike the taste of lemoncello =)

Oh and I hate the French but they make kickass wine!; February 21, 2010 at 2:13 PM
Shannon said...: Bella I will back you up on this ok...I do not think that in a real sense that you have been vilified. I will own it as well...Though I was not one that Won or anyone else came to, since I was off at the time, but I did back her for the banning that she did with Kristin and Tee. I think a lot of people did because we all felt that if there was something going on that was so horrible that she felt the need to ban then there must have been a reason to do it KWIM? I personally questioned but openly supported the reasoning. It was when it started happening more and more and things were getting really weird, such as emails about what I was waiting to have happen at SIP that I realized things were not so ok and I couldnt support that anymore.

Maybe I was totally stupid because once again I was just blindly saying OK due to not wanting to 'rock' the boat. I dont hate anyone for anything that has happened and gone on I just feel that things spiraled out of control because SIP got to a point that it really didnt matter what the voice of SIP said it was ultimately one person's decision.

I just want people to be able to say what they feel the need to say get it out and move on from it. Maybe that is just me but I think that in some very serious respects R2 did right by saying what she did out in the open, maybe wording was bad, but the intent was there to address the entire room and I appreciate that.; February 21, 2010 at 2:16 PM
Anonymous said...: A little joke we, Belgians, tell about the French:

God created France as a wonderful country. There was the ocean, the countryside, the mountains...The landscapes were breathtakingly beautiful. Then , God stopped. He realized that France was too perfect and it was unfair to other countries.
God then created the French people to make sure France would no longer be envied by the neighboring countries. :P; February 21, 2010 at 2:18 PM
Anonymous said...: Desperate Housewives is on :)

See you tomorrow! Have a good afternoon all!; February 21, 2010 at 2:21 PM
Angie said...: Ha, Corinne! That's cute! Do the French hate the Belgians as much as you hate them? Or do the French just hate EVERYBODY, and not discriminate. ;-)

And seriously, what's up with not being able to wear a head scarf in France? Don't the French have a constitution?; February 21, 2010 at 2:22 PM
Angie said...: I'm so happy Bella's here I can't stand it. I was also thrilled to see R2 today, and hope she'll be back soon.

Rebecca, where have you been? I haven't seen you here in the last couple of days.

I want all the peeps. I'm selfish that way.; February 21, 2010 at 2:24 PM
Anonymous said...: SW, is a peep-hoarding, lemoncello-swigging broad.

I would have it no other way!; February 21, 2010 at 2:25 PM
PJ said...: Stepping back into blog world from real life, I will share that I was treated very unkindly by R2 and Wendy in the last days I was on SIP.

It appears my measured comments there to be kind, take some time to sort things out and listen, to let the specific people involved work it out between them, etc. were in some way threatening. As was my respectfully stating I disagreed with the c/p of material from this blog.

Since R2 has come here, I will address it as it pertains to her.

I'm not looking for sympathy, rather this is only to say that I was disappointed in how R2 spoke to me there. She was clearly supporting Wendy's spparent anger towards me.

As a result, it will be hard to feel all sunshine and roses towards her.; February 21, 2010 at 2:26 PM
PJ said...: spparent = apparent; February 21, 2010 at 2:27 PM
Robin said...: Bella--I am not vilifying you. I have a problem with you feeding into what you now call won's "paranoia" and then jumping ship because she was what you call "paranoid." To me? That's not a friend. And I have no trouble whatsoever with owning that. That doesn't mean I want everyone else to feel that way. But it's how I feel.

And that doesn't mean I don't "like" you, whatever that means. It means I'm not real happy with the way you've gone about this whole thing.

There's no "popularity contest" in my mind. I am who I am, and I have no trouble with me or with being me.

And yes, I am still friends with won. And will remain so. If you know a friend is going through a hard time, you don't abandon that friend. You stick around, you care, and you try to help. I like everyone here, obviously there are some I feel "closer" with than others, but I'm not throwing anyone under any buses, you included, Bella.; February 21, 2010 at 2:30 PM
Angie said...: "SW, is a peep-hoarding, lemoncello-swigging broad."

You'll be able to add "unemployed and homeless" to the list soon if I don't start working. Lordy.; February 21, 2010 at 2:30 PM
Angie said...: "You'll be able to add "unemployed and homeless" to the list soon if I don't start working. Lordy."

And BTW, the peep-drama? Doesn't help me concentrate. LOL (And it's clearly all about me, ya know.); February 21, 2010 at 2:32 PM
Robin said...: CK--you clearly were trying to stir over there--THAT is what I reacted to. it was uncalled for.

No problem owning that, either. It had nothing to do with "defending" won. She's a big girl, too.; February 21, 2010 at 2:32 PM
Anonymous said...: R2, with the original ban that happened, I did not think Won was being paranoid. at. all. In the days and weeks that followed, and continuing to on to this very day, she became paranoid, which was shown by the subsequent bannings for minor, minor issues, and the general feeling of unease that was (and maybe still is) festering at SIP.

R2, do you agree that a person can do X, and you can agree with that, but then that person goes on to do Y and Z, and you don't have to agree with those?

I agreed with Won in the beginning. I harbor no ill will towards her, to this day. Later actions by Won I did, and do not agree with.

Am I making any sense here?; February 21, 2010 at 2:38 PM
Robin said...: I don't know really, seeing as how I didn't agree with X, and Y and Z followed as a consequence of it. They weren't isolated events happening months apart. They all go back to X, which preceded them.

But whatever. I am happy enough to move on with life on the Internet. I said what I needed to say, and I'm glad that I did, and that I had the opportunity to. Nothing can be gained by hashing it all out again.; February 21, 2010 at 2:41 PM
PJ said...: R2,
So it's your perception that politely disagreeing, and speaking one's mind is "trying to stir"?

Perhaps those are the unspoken rules some places. I have not found that to be true in other areas of my life.; February 21, 2010 at 2:49 PM
PJ said...: For which I am grateful.; February 21, 2010 at 2:50 PM
Nilia said...: AP: I will check out the recipe site later, thanks!; February 21, 2010 at 3:02 PM
Robin said...: No, CK. I had no problem whatsoever with your belief that it was unethical to post what was here over there. None.

Neither did won, as I recall. She admitted it was unethical.

So to give you a direct answer to a direct question--no. No double standards or odd rules, either. Sorry to disappoint. :); February 21, 2010 at 3:07 PM
PJ said...: R2,
I did not say it was unethical to c/p what was posted here at SIP. I said I disagreed with it and it wasn't helpful.

And Wendy justified her decision to do it repeatedly.; February 21, 2010 at 3:10 PM
Nilia said...: R2: okay I can't let that slide. Won did in fact copy and paste entire conversations from here to SIP. I told her in an email that it was not cool and hypocritical, even if Daisy is a public blog.; February 21, 2010 at 3:13 PM
Robin said...: CK--peace, OK? As I recall, what you are responding to badly is that I asked--and quite directly--on SIP why you were being so snarky. And that's IT. If you want to try to turn it into something it wasn't, go for it--unfortunately, few people here have any way to verify any of it, right?

And again--not in defense of won--not--but she did say she agreed that it was unethical.

If you want to harbor your little bad feelings about me over here, carry on. I won't be joining you, though, just so you know. Different day, different place.; February 21, 2010 at 3:14 PM
Nilia said...: Am I missing something? How can that not be a double standard?; February 21, 2010 at 3:14 PM
Nilia said...: R2: until you posted today, I do not recall any convos about you. I could be wrong, though.; February 21, 2010 at 3:15 PM
Angie said...: Will someone still at SIP copy and paste this to there?

"Still missing some peeps.
Won't you come and visit us?
Especially Sue."; February 21, 2010 at 3:16 PM
Nilia said...: Need some duct tape for myself, please.; February 21, 2010 at 3:16 PM
PJ said...: R2,
It's gonna take me longer than that to declare peace. Gotta give it more time. And since you've agreed that asking questions and disagreeing is okay on SIP, then I don't how you concluded that I was being snarky.

Just know that this is one specific example of why I'm not feelin' the love towards you, and I will just need to deal with it if and when you are here.; February 21, 2010 at 3:17 PM
Robin said...: Thanks, FT. I wasn't worried that my ears should be burning. I just wanted to clear the air a bit.

I am so sorry for everything that has happened, and if anything I said or did had any input into it, for that I am doubly sorry. I wanted to say what I have said, and again, I am grateful that I could find so many of you here to say it to.; February 21, 2010 at 3:17 PM
PJ said...: don't how = don't know how; February 21, 2010 at 3:18 PM
Robin said...: That works for me, CK. I suppose I'll know when you're over it?

Just kidding. ;)

Questions aren't (or shouldn't) be a problem. Perhaps my reaction to your snarkiness was seen one way by me, and quite another by you.

Such is the nature of online communication.; February 21, 2010 at 3:20 PM
PJ said...: R2,
It would have been more meaningful if you started with the apology, and ended without saying more.

As one who was treated poorly, I accept.

Cause, as SW says, it's all about me, right? Or wait, her, right?; February 21, 2010 at 3:21 PM
Nilia said...: Corinne, are you here?? I just realized my headache's gone!

Man, you're GOOD.; February 21, 2010 at 3:22 PM
Robin said...: Right!

No one is perfect. Even me. ;)

Thank you.; February 21, 2010 at 3:22 PM
Angie said...: "Cause, as SW says, it's all about me, right? Or wait, her, right?"

The latter, CK. :-) You are all here for my entertainment. And one of you has to take me in when I'm unemployed and homeless. K?; February 21, 2010 at 3:27 PM
Anonymous said...: Hi everyone.

AP...how did you know I skipped church today?; February 21, 2010 at 3:33 PM
Trudy said...: Just stoping in to say HI! Miss everyone i'll try to get on tonight. have a great day.; February 21, 2010 at 3:35 PM
Angie said...: Hi Christy! I skipped church too! For the last 20 years. Is that bad? ;-); February 21, 2010 at 3:35 PM
Anonymous said...: Hey Trudy...bring cakeballs when you come back :); February 21, 2010 at 3:36 PM
Anonymous said...: Your such a rebel SW. Are you at work again today?; February 21, 2010 at 3:36 PM
Angie said...: Hiya Trudy, We've missed you and I'd trade one of my cats for some of your cake balls right about now.; February 21, 2010 at 3:36 PM
Angie said...: I am at work Christy. And getting so much done too, 'cause it's so quiet in here today and there are no distractions! :-|; February 21, 2010 at 3:37 PM
Anonymous said...: Hi GM!; February 21, 2010 at 3:38 PM
Anonymous said...: Yeah, it is a little bit quiet isn't it.; February 21, 2010 at 3:39 PM
PJ said...: GM.is.here?; February 21, 2010 at 3:51 PM
Lisa said...: "Based on Won's "concerns", I advised that if she was truly uncomfortable, to make the call. That is the extent of my involvement in that."

For the record, I have no issues *at all* with what you did, Bella. She asked your opinion, you gave it...done deal. Nothing more.; February 21, 2010 at 3:55 PM
Anonymous said...: She was CK...check sitemeter.; February 21, 2010 at 4:01 PM
Lisa said...: "As a result, it will be hard to feel all sunshine and roses towards her."

CK, you don't have to, not she to you. Not everyone likes everyone else and it's really okay. I know there are people who don't like me and while I don't understand it (<--that's a joke, in case anyone thinks I'm serious), it doesn't make me angry toward them or upset. That's just how life rocks. Different personalities and all...nothing more or less. :-); February 21, 2010 at 4:03 PM
Lisa said...: "You'll be able to add "unemployed and homeless" to the list soon if I don't start working. Lordy."

If you lose your job, how will you support me in the lifestyle to which I'm accustomed? :-/; February 21, 2010 at 4:04 PM
MY LIFE WITH BOYS! said...: Good afternoon ladies!; February 21, 2010 at 4:09 PM
Lisa said...: "AP...how did you know I skipped church today"

Site meter.

(That was a bad joke, wasn't it?); February 21, 2010 at 4:10 PM
Shannon said...: Just FTR I am flat out simply ignoring everyone because I have decided I like quadratic functions more than all of you put together

Now if you honestly believe that take your ass to the beach and fly a kite :); February 21, 2010 at 4:10 PM
Lisa said...: Hi, Trudy and ummmm...hi, GM? Lol, did I miss something?; February 21, 2010 at 4:11 PM
PJ said...: Yup AP, just wanted her and others to know why I wasn't throwing my arms around her if she visited.

And to get it off my average sized chest.; February 21, 2010 at 4:11 PM
Lisa said...: "Just FTR I am flat out simply ignoring everyone because I have decided I like quadratic functions more than all of you put together"

Shannon, get me drunk and I'll do them for you. Some people get silly, others get belligerent. I? Love math.; February 21, 2010 at 4:13 PM
Shannon said...: AP you are a horrible tease...why must you be so far from me???? I would get you drunk and let you tutor me :); February 21, 2010 at 4:14 PM
Lisa said...: "Yup AP, just wanted her and others to know why I wasn't throwing my arms around her if she visited.

And to get it off my average sized chest."

Wellllll, alrighty then. I'm just going to go sit in the bcorner with a snack and some of the vodka now!; February 21, 2010 at 4:14 PM
Lisa said...: It's just a corner. We have no a and b corners.
Sorry is anyone is disappointed.; February 21, 2010 at 4:15 PM
Lisa said...: IF you're disappointed. IF.
Goddammit.; February 21, 2010 at 4:15 PM
Angie said...: MLWB! Hi!; February 21, 2010 at 4:17 PM
PJ said...: ::likes being a 36C::; February 21, 2010 at 4:17 PM
Lisa said...: If nothing else, Shannon, the end result could be amusing. ;-); February 21, 2010 at 4:17 PM
Shannon said...: HAHAHAHAHA

Just by talking about math I have sent AP's brain into thinking overload :); February 21, 2010 at 4:18 PM
MY LIFE WITH BOYS! said...: Hi SW! Did I interupt something?; February 21, 2010 at 4:18 PM
PJ said...: My MLwB! How is your life with boys?; February 21, 2010 at 4:19 PM
Shannon said...: Oh it would be very amusing....wonder if instructor would accept drunk tutor as an excuse?

And of course the TV is being a bitch!! I would much rather be playing BioShock 2 and they keep playing commercials for it....

The world is conspiring against my good student side today.; February 21, 2010 at 4:20 PM
Lisa said...: Hi there, MLWB!

Okay, back to work for me...got company coming this week. Blah.; February 21, 2010 at 4:20 PM
PJ said...: ::waving hand furiously::

I know, I know! Let's have a poll on bra size! That would be SO fun....

::doesn't like polls::; February 21, 2010 at 4:20 PM
MY LIFE WITH BOYS! said...: Hey CK! Crazy as ever:) I'm looking forward to their school vacation ending tomorrow. How have you been? How is your daughter?; February 21, 2010 at 4:20 PM
MY LIFE WITH BOYS! said...: Ck, Um lets not do that....
Hi AP!!!; February 21, 2010 at 4:21 PM
PJ said...: Well, daughter ended up at the ER 5:00 a.m.Saturday morning (she did call her dad for that one) - terrifying migraine, and her doc said if she ever woke with one (I started typing won there for a second - arggg), she should go to the ER.

CAT scan revealed nothing. They gave her an IV with some good stuff, and sent her home.

Today she sounds really good. Perhaps I should try this.; February 21, 2010 at 4:22 PM
PJ said...: MLwB - was it a 9 day week with the boys? Did you get to do some fun things?; February 21, 2010 at 4:23 PM
MY LIFE WITH BOYS! said...: That stinks for her. Glad to hear she sounds good today.; February 21, 2010 at 4:23 PM
Angie said...: AP said: "I know there are people who don't like me"

Who doesn't like AP? Grrrr. Wish I had an AP likemeter, so I could smoke them out!

But then what would I do? I can't ban them, dammit. I guess I would just taunt them. And maybe fart in their general direction.; February 21, 2010 at 4:24 PM
PJ said...: Been eating that garlic soup, SW?; February 21, 2010 at 4:24 PM
MY LIFE WITH BOYS! said...: Haha! More like 14 day week! I worked for 2 days. We did some fun stuff; they each had a sleep over with my inlaws. We have NO snow; so kind of boring for them. The mountains have some snow, so they got to ski. I'm ready for them to go back. I know teachers hate it!; February 21, 2010 at 4:24 PM
Angie said...: <<--- thinks 36C's should keep their lucky 36C mouths shut about it ;-); February 21, 2010 at 4:25 PM
MY LIFE WITH BOYS! said...: SW-LMAO, we went out to dinner last night. I had major gas from it. Still have it today. I pitty anyone behind me grocery shopping this morning!; February 21, 2010 at 4:25 PM
MY LIFE WITH BOYS! said...: No shit SW! 36C? hmmmmmph.; February 21, 2010 at 4:26 PM
PJ said...: I had itty bitty ones before kids. You know those bras - almost an A, almost a B. Oh yeah...; February 21, 2010 at 4:27 PM
MY LIFE WITH BOYS! said...: I had "nice, full ones" before 3 kids/nursing. Now? Not so much....; February 21, 2010 at 4:28 PM
Angie said...: CK said: "Been eating that garlic soup, SW?"

No CK, worse. Red beans and rice.

When I fart in the grocery store, I try to do it in the cleaning products aisle. Balances things out.; February 21, 2010 at 4:29 PM
MY LIFE WITH BOYS! said...: OOOH SW! Great idea!; February 21, 2010 at 4:29 PM
Erin said...: MLWB- is this their spring break? Do they get more time off near Easter?; February 21, 2010 at 4:30 PM
MY LIFE WITH BOYS! said...: Yes, another week mid April.; February 21, 2010 at 4:32 PM
Robin said...: "Not everyone likes everyone else and it's really okay."

FTR, I don't dislike CK or anyone else, for that matter.

And I didn't expect anyone to do cartwheels simply because of my presence.

;)

It would be odd if we all jumped up and down for everyone else all the time. Not to mention unbelievable.; February 21, 2010 at 4:39 PM
Shannon said...: What are you people saying that we dont all have to like each other and jump up and down for everyone????

I thought this was the stepford wives forum?; February 21, 2010 at 4:41 PM
Angie said...: <<--only does cartwheels for AP; February 21, 2010 at 4:57 PM
Anonymous said...: It most certainly is the Stepford Wives forum here, Shannon. Now get your ass in the kitchen, fry me something, and be happy about it :D; February 21, 2010 at 4:58 PM
Angie said...: <<--is a big fat liar who's never done a cartwheel in her life; February 21, 2010 at 4:58 PM
Anonymous said...: Oh, c'mon SW...I wanna see you do a cartwheel!; February 21, 2010 at 4:58 PM
Shannon said...: HAHAHAHAHA Bella what would you like...Whatever I can do to make you happy I am here for you...But this moment I have to make myself acceptable to go out of the house :); February 21, 2010 at 5:02 PM
Angie said...: "Oh, c'mon SW...I wanna see you do a cartwheel!"

Christy, so did my 7th grade PE teacher. She learned to live with the disappointment. You will too.; February 21, 2010 at 5:03 PM
Angie said...: I wish I had on video my Mom out in the front yard with me, trying to teach me how to do a cartwheel when I was 13 years old. She'd do one, and tell me what to do, and I'd bend over, put a hand on the ground and just sort of fall down. Good times.; February 21, 2010 at 5:27 PM
twirldawg said...: Um. . . hi; February 21, 2010 at 5:54 PM
Anonymous said...: Hi Jill :); February 21, 2010 at 6:01 PM
twirldawg said...: Cartwheels are necessary, but a cocktail would be nice.

Hi Bella.; February 21, 2010 at 6:03 PM
Anonymous said...: I'm having some peanut butter crunch...better than a cocktail for me!; February 21, 2010 at 6:05 PM
twirldawg said...: Peanut butter crunch sounds really good.; February 21, 2010 at 6:08 PM
Angie said...: Hi Jill! I bet you can do a mean cartwheel, while twirling even! How've you been?; February 21, 2010 at 6:30 PM
twirldawg said...: In my prime I could do two under a toss.

I'm ok, crappy couple of days, but the sunny weather has helped.; February 21, 2010 at 6:34 PM
Erin said...: Hey Bella- did you say you were getting a tattoo this weekend?; February 21, 2010 at 6:35 PM
Erin said...: Jill- in my prime I could touch my toes. ::jealous of jill::; February 21, 2010 at 6:36 PM
Angie said...: Ha, EL! I could too!; February 21, 2010 at 6:37 PM
PJ said...: Jill - I'm so sad about the loss of the student at your school. I've been thinking about you a lot lately.; February 21, 2010 at 6:39 PM
Anonymous said...: EL, no, for now it's a far off dream. I also have to tone these meat sticks before they are tattoo ready!! :D; February 21, 2010 at 6:43 PM
twirldawg said...: Thank you CK, that means a lot to me.; February 21, 2010 at 6:47 PM
Erin said...: See? My brain only half works. I remembered the tattoo part, just not the rest. I blame it on my kids; little brain suckers!; February 21, 2010 at 6:50 PM
PJ said...: AP - check your in box.; February 21, 2010 at 6:50 PM
Jennifer-Lynn said...: My oh my, it's been busy here today. :)

I'm glad people are getting stuff off their tiny, tiny chests. My 36/38DDDs celebrate for you.

OT, I have a tri-tip roast in the oven, which will be accompanied by horseradish mashed potatoes. Should I make an asparagus gratin or broccoli with a lemon poppyseed sauce?

Normally I'd be all over the asparagus, but Henry's (kind of a local Whole Foods) has it on sale for 97 cents/lb. So we've been eating A LOT of asparagus, and I imagine my family's urine permanently smells. Except for mine, since I do not produce the enzyme which breaks down asparagus.; February 21, 2010 at 6:54 PM
Erin said...: Broccoli. How's the BB BD?; February 21, 2010 at 6:56 PM
Jennifer-Lynn said...: Fester (great call AP!) still abides, though less so. And I am almost completely pain free. Thanks for asking, EL!; February 21, 2010 at 6:57 PM
PJ said...: I made a chicken Shepherd's Pie from the Weight Watchers cookbook tonight. I'm hoping it's tasty. Lots of work.; February 21, 2010 at 7:02 PM
PJ said...: The verdict is: Different, but good. Too much marjoram and thyme, though.; February 21, 2010 at 7:26 PM
Jennifer-Lynn said...: Broccoli it is.

R2: good to see you.; February 21, 2010 at 7:35 PM
Jennifer-Lynn said...: I just watched last week's episode of Big Love, and man. I love Adaleen, and the way that went down with JJ was creepy...; February 21, 2010 at 7:36 PM
Angie said...: Yup, Adaleen is the bomb, BD. And yup, that was real creepy. Funny how creepy they made the thought of having sex while wearing long underwear.

What do you think, will they all end up under one roof and happily ever after? (I think not.); February 21, 2010 at 7:42 PM
Jennifer-Lynn said...: Here's the broccoli I made, if anyone is interested:

http://allrecipes.com/Recipe/Broccoli-with-Poppy-Seed-Butter-and-Parmesan-Cheese/Detail.aspx; February 21, 2010 at 7:43 PM
kristin said...: Okay, I am still catching up but I saw this and had to comment"

"And yes, I am still friends with won. And will remain so. If you know a friend is going through a hard time, you don't abandon that friend. You stick around, you care, and you try to help"

Does anyone see the irony in this?

Also, I really want to move past this but since everyone is still talking about it - bella, shannon, etc...can anyone tell me their thoughts, opinions, or reasoning why you were in support of Wendy banning me? I just want some light shed on this?; February 21, 2010 at 7:50 PM
Angie said...: That looks good, BD. Let us know if it is good.; February 21, 2010 at 7:50 PM
Angie said...: Did anybody see the 60 minutes piece on the World Trade Center rebuilding project? What a sad mess.; February 21, 2010 at 7:54 PM
kristin said...: Oh CK - I am sorry to hear about your daughter. I am glad she is feeling better or sounding better.; February 21, 2010 at 7:59 PM
kristin said...: sad that SW only does cartwheels for AP!; February 21, 2010 at 8:01 PM
Jennifer-Lynn said...: SW...oh, NO. Bill is, to me, the least likable character. All the Grants are perfectly cast, and I love me some Joey.

But no. I think Bill's hubris will bring them all down.

To me, this is big time paralleling the story of Jacob. I should write it out and post it. But...sent away under father's curse; favored wife gives fertile handmaidens to husband to procreate (remember, Nikki was Barb's nurse, and Margene the babysitter). Oldest son has an affair with father's youngest wife and is sent away...it goes on and on.

And I've never liked Ana.; February 21, 2010 at 8:01 PM
Anonymous said...: Kristin, to be completely honest, I was in support of Won banning you because of the private email forwarding that happened between you and Tee, and also there was some issue of you hiding you IP when you were at SIP. That's all I know. And, again I will state it, I wasn't up in Won's email inbox screaming "Ban those bitches!!". She asked what I thought, and I told her that if something was making her *that uncomfortable, she needs to deal with that.

I think Won was looking for validation for something she already had her heart set on doing, kwim? If I am guilty of anything, it was validating Won's feelings.; February 21, 2010 at 8:04 PM
PJ said...: Thanks Kristin - she was well enough to make a delivery of sick people stuff for me to my son, who is pretty sick himself.; February 21, 2010 at 8:04 PM
kristin said...: Thanks Bella - and as I have explained - the e-mail was from Tee to me, she was upset and trusted my opinion. I did not forward any of Wendy's e-mails on to anyone. I think there were a few who were confused about that.

Also, as far as the IP address. I wasn't "hiding" - since security was tightening up at work, I was subscribing to comments and reading via e-mail and when I would post comments, I would do so from there. I do that now too.; February 21, 2010 at 8:09 PM
Jennifer-Lynn said...: It is good, SW. I've made it before.

Kristin, I am going to e-mail you.; February 21, 2010 at 8:10 PM
Anonymous said...: Kristin, it's nice to hear you side of the story, as well. I am sorry if I hurt you in any way.; February 21, 2010 at 8:11 PM
kristin said...: I will be in and out. LM is in the shower, I need to put away laundry and straighten up the house. I know that some people may have questions, concerns - so if I don't respond right away, you will know why.; February 21, 2010 at 8:21 PM
PJ said...: Ski Cross - It's like human bumper cars, on a steep incline with huge speed bumps.; February 21, 2010 at 8:23 PM
Erin said...: BD and SW- and what aboout Wanda's parents?? THEY are a couple of loons. I have a feeling that we are only begining to see the craziness that is Albie.; February 21, 2010 at 8:24 PM
Angie said...: Yeah, they are bad crazy. As opposed to Bill's parents, who are good crazy. I'm enjoying the bird storyline.; February 21, 2010 at 8:30 PM
twirldawg said...: I'm poed that Big Love is only 9 episodes this season.; February 21, 2010 at 8:30 PM
Robin said...: Kristin--maybe you could explain to me what you saw as irony in what I said?

As I recall, I emailed you, as well. Several times. And the response? You told me to flake off, pretty much.

So...the irony, please?

Because surely, surely you don't mean irony in ME remaining friends with won. Surely not.; February 21, 2010 at 8:39 PM
Lisa said...: "Who doesn't like AP? Grrrr. Wish I had an AP likemeter, so I could smoke them out!"

Well, thanks, but it's really okay. :-)

"But then what would I do? I can't ban them, dammit. I guess I would just taunt them. And maybe fart in their general direction."

REALLY, IT'S OKAY! Great even! Ack!; February 21, 2010 at 8:41 PM
PJ said...: ::talking shit about AP to whoever will listen::; February 21, 2010 at 8:44 PM
PJ said...: oopsie daisy - damn filter fell off again.; February 21, 2010 at 8:45 PM
Lisa said...: Jill! I'm glad to see you. How is everyone doing at school? Hanging in there?

CK, glad your daughter is feeling better. She must have been scared. :-( How's your son feeling? Wait. You did say your son had the stomach thing too, right?; February 21, 2010 at 8:46 PM
Lisa said...: "Thanks Kristin - she was well enough to make a delivery of sick people stuff for me to my son, who is pretty sick himself."

Ahhh, my memory isn't totally shot.; February 21, 2010 at 8:47 PM
Angie said...: Okay, so I'm watching the Amazing Race, and the racers have to milk a cow. One of the cows starts taking a dump, as cows have a tendency to do, and the producers blurred the area of the cow's ass, down to the ground, I suppose to spare the delicate viewers from the sight of a cow taking a dump.

Now maybe I'm a country hick, but who hasn't seen a cow take a dump? It's not like breasts, which clearly nobody's ever seen on TV before. Er.; February 21, 2010 at 8:48 PM
PJ said...: Son has temp of 101, achey, sinus, cough. He rarely gets sick. He's really down for the count.

Daughter was vomiting. No temp. Then headache and off to the ER. She's got more ailments than Carter has pills (old people will get this reference).; February 21, 2010 at 8:49 PM
Lisa said...: "::talking shit about AP to whoever will listen::"

I figured you were the guiltiest of them all. ;-); February 21, 2010 at 8:51 PM
PJ said...: AP,
I didn't want you to feel left out.; February 21, 2010 at 8:52 PM
Lisa said...: "She's got more ailments than Carter has pills (old people will get this reference)."

Shit. I even know they were liver pills.; February 21, 2010 at 8:52 PM
Erin said...: Me too, and I am a youngster! ;); February 21, 2010 at 8:55 PM
Jennifer-Lynn said...: I got the distinct impression that Wanda, and possibly Nikki, were sexually abused by Wanda and JJ's dad.

Also, I wish that Lois was my mother in law.; February 21, 2010 at 8:55 PM
kristin said...: r2 - the irony is Tee and Wendy were friends, Wendy turned her back on Tee. End of story.

I really didn't trust a lot of people. I didn't have access to SIPs, I don't know what was said or what was being said so I didn't say much.

End of story on that one too!; February 21, 2010 at 8:55 PM
Jennifer-Lynn said...: I was going to put this in an e-mail to Kristin, but I have nothing to hide, so I’ll just post it here.

I also told Wendy that I supported her decision; however, this is because I was given to understand that you had started some nasty talk about her behind her back. I have to admit that I was a little shocked by this; it went against the things that I’d observed in your behavior. But I could understand why, if this were true, she wouldn’t want you on a blog that she was moderating. I said several times that I hoped that you would be reinstated, although I also noted that you might not want to go back to a place that had just banned you.

Would I have done the same thing? I don’t know. Hindsight is 20/20, you know? But she did not ask me about my position on banning you, so I never weighed in. I was not asked, and did not even offer, an opinion on banning Tee, and I did have some very strong opinions about her participation on the board. Even so, had she asked me my opinion, I don’t know that I’d recommend banning. I don’t know what alternative she might have had; my guess is she felt she had no other alternative.

I will say that I did not connect your banning to Tee’s; my understanding was that they were two separate issues. I basically thought it was just a coincidence, or that while she was doing one, she’d do the other.

I asked to be banned after CK and FT were banned, because I saw what they wrote and frankly, what they wrote didn’t need to be censored. I don’t support censorship, and I knew I was too weak to stop myself from coming back. I also wanted to be clear that Wendy did not ban me, so there was no action on her part taken because I “did something wrong.” She doesn’t need to take the direct blame for my banning. But I’d already had bad feelings about SIP, after the whole “copy and paste” fiasco.

I continue to think about Wendy; I hope that she finds some inner peace and that she is able to re-establish relationships with some of the people here (myself included). Because, at one point or another, we all really cared about her. I still do.; February 21, 2010 at 8:55 PM
Jennifer-Lynn said...: This Jan Crouch looks like Joan Collins, if Joan Collins weren't so real looking.

That, by the way, was sarcasm.; February 21, 2010 at 8:58 PM
twirldawg said...: AP- there is a memorial service on wed. and a funeral on sat. so this will be another tough week.

Who is talking shit about you? I'm confused.; February 21, 2010 at 8:58 PM